The Cincinnati Wagner "Graded"

[campyfan39]

not saying it is real, but if I owned a t206 wagner NO ONE would get near it without me in the room!

[Doug]

I wish they would quit calling it the Cincinnati Wagner. If I ever win the lottery and can afford a legit one I'd never be able to sell it based on the possible confusion!

[AndyG09]

Always Clueless Authentic Grading of Quebec! I think they were grading in one of the bathrooms at the National. I wonder what the next move will be with this garbage slab? I imagine Coaches Corner would be the logical location for this trash.

Best,

Andy

[lharri3600]

how can orlando say the card is a fake when his company slabbed a trimmed wagner an 8. talk about hypocrites! that's why i'm about 90% out of the hobby. then there's the doyle polar bear. ho hum

[barrysloate]

Jeff beat me to it...the first thing I thought was better not criticize these two or you'll get accused of being a racist.

And there is no controversy whatsoever surrounding this card. It was fake, it's still fake, and tomorrow it will continue to be fake.

[lharri3600]

has anyone here touched or seen the card IN PERSON?

[JohnP0621]

Does anyone have a scan of this card?

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by campyfan39

not saying it is real, but if I owned a t206 wagner NO ONE would get near it without me in the room!

I know we've been over this a million times, but any t206 collector (or litho collector in general) can tell a real from a fake in seconds. Loop the front, look at the dot pattern, job done. It literally takes seconds.

But these guys know it's a fake because they 'created' it. If it were real, they would have sent it to PSA and reaped their just rewards. Also said before, they have to get it 'legitimately' slabbed to protect themselves from lawsuits when they get their 'unjust' reward. They have to then find just the right stooge to buy this thing - someone who wants to believe it is real so badly that they will tout its authenticity as much as these two clowns have.

[barrysloate]

Who are these hosers at ACA Grading? Has anyone ever seen a graded vintage card in one of their holders?

[Section103]

It's pretty simple - the market will determine if its real or fake. Its been "authenticated", they're free to sell it (as they always have been), and we'll see what the top dollar brings. Honestly, I'd be happy to own it for...I dunno maybe $25.

[glynparson]

I do not care what the "market": determines the CARD is 100% A FAKE FRONT

[Leon]

Originally Posted by glynparson

I do not care what the "market": determines the CARD is 100% A FAKE FRONT

Yeah, but that back could be worth some big bucks!!

[terjung]

OK, I'm far from a T206 expert and not that anyone here believes for a second that it is real, but for crying out loud... that card's not even close! For starters, the font is wrong. The letters after the P in Pittsburgh are all the wrong size from a traditional T206. I can only imagine that a more detailed look with a loop could point out a whole litany of other reproduction characteristics... dot pattern, edge inspection, etc. I'd bet that thing would fluoresce under black light too. Even before all that, the presumably artificial aging looks suspicious. The only way I'd spend $25 on that thing is just as cocktail fodder...or to make the story just go away. Aren't their 15 minutes up yet?

[Scott T]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Who are these hosers at ACA Grading? Has anyone ever seen a graded vintage card in one of their holders?

BOB: "Good day, eh! We graded this card and it's a beauty, eh."

DOUG: "We got paid in Elsinore beers!"

[barrysloate]

Scott- did you see the one where the Mackenzie brothers put a baby mouse in an empty beer bottle, let it grow to maturity, then filled the bottle with beer and recapped it, returned it to the company for a refund, and then got a whole case of beer back as part of the company's apology? Pretty funny.

[hunterdutchess]

How long before the card gets listed on ebay? I can't wait to see the description. Here is a bogus graded Wagner :

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honus-Wagner...#ht_789wt_1185

$200?

[Tsaiko]

Originally Posted by hunterdutchess

How long before the card gets listed on ebay? I can't wait to see the description. Here is a bogus graded Wagner :

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honus-Wagner...#ht_789wt_1185

$200?

Good lord.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur0g-R7ZODY

[E93]

Originally Posted by hunterdutchess

How long before the card gets listed on ebay? I can't wait to see the description. Here is a bogus graded Wagner :

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honus-Wagner...#ht_789wt_1185

$200?

Looks like a color copy of a real Wagner pasted on a real piedmont back.
JimB

[CW]

"It is what we call an unreleased version of the card," said ACA Grading owner Martin Brouillard. "It is a controversial card, and people are scared of it."

Yes, so scared, in fact, that ol' Honus is making the rounds this year at your local haunted house....