Chris Morales appears in court for an autograph case, read about the results.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

The total number of signatures is 319. According to Mr. Bassett's email, Mr. Chris Morales, Forensic Investigator, testified that he spends 2-3 hours examining each signature at $75.00 per item. 89 items at $75.00 a pop equals $6.675.00. He examined 319 signatures at a minimum of 2 hours per signature totals 638 hours "forensically examining" those 89 items. That breaks down to $10.46 per hour. Let's say that Mr. Morales only spent one hour examining each signature. That breaks down to $20.92 per hour.

If any of my numbers here are incorrect, Mr. Morales, please feel free to correct me.

Some more interesting math.

638 hours is roughly 26 1/2 full days. Or if we go on a 10 hour workday, 63.8 days. If it's a typical month for him he must be spending much less than even 1 hour on each one.

Steve B

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by steve B

Some more interesting math.

638 hours is roughly 26 1/2 full days. Or if we go on a 10 hour workday, 63.8 days. If it's a typical month for him he must be spending much less than even 1 hour on each one.

Steve B

Yes, and that's only his services for Coach's Corner Auctions. What about the other 5-7 companies he "Forensically Examines" for? There's that other site (that shall remain nameless) in which a minimum of 10 signatures a day are "Forensically Examined" by Chris Morales, Forensic Investigator. That's 300 signatures a month. At one hour of examination per signature that's 300 hours (12 1/2 days).

[Big Dave]

No authenticator spends that kind of time on a signature(s), and that includes all the well known national companies.

Most of the time it is just a visual that gets an item rejected or passed, or who has already authenticated the item, or who you know.


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[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Big Dave

No authenticator spends that kind of time on a signature(s), and that includes all the well known national companies.

Most of the time it is just a visual that gets an item rejected or passed, or who has already authenticated the item, or who you know.


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Dave, that's my point. Chris Morales is not an authenticator, he is a "Forensic Investigator" as per his website and his COA. There is a big difference between a "Forensic Investigator" and "Autograph Authenticator."

When I communicated with a number of FDE's (Forensic Document Examiners) and inquired about examining signatures (vintage) on a baseball, the ones that responded wrote that the first two items they would start with would be the substrate (the baseball) and the ink. That's what "forensic" people do.

What "Forensic" analysis does Chris Morales really perform when he can't even determine that certain signatures were traced? Think about that.

[thetruthisoutthere]

The below Mickey Mantle signed photo sold today on another auction site (they shall remain nameless) for a whopping $6.00. It was "Forensically Examined" by Chris Morales.

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[RichardSimon]

What if the auction houses changed their payments to authenticators and paid them a percentage of the sale price???

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

What if the auction houses changed their payments to authenticators and paid them a percentage of the sale price???

Imagine that. The below auction ended this morning. It was a "Dutch" auction of 2. They each sold for $3.00.

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Yes, the above two Mickey Mantle signed photos "Forensically Examined" by Chris Morales, sold for $3.00 a piece.