Ebay Seller Jeddrinkwine

[npa589]

You do make good points, and I think all of the sellers feel that way, but we need buyers to meet the prerequisites of being considered a seller.

If this guy keeps it up, he'll be a poster - not a seller.

Originally Posted by mintacular

I do agree that it is bad business to not provide back scans. I would however be devil's advocate in saying that he has the right to list a "BIN" for whatever he wants and if there is no "best offer" option than I could understand how a dealer might be annoyed with em's asking for lower prices, especially on a lower $ card.

Likewise, customers quoting past sales vcp etc. would not endear me to that buyer as I'm sure he is aware of those #'s and has chosen to try and sell it for a higher $. Especially with cards these days, many of these dealers need to "buy low, sell high" to make any kind of profit. If they tried to sell everything at " vcp avg." many of them wouldn't make it for long haul.

As stated, I met the guy in person and he was friendly enough--I can see how online it might be more tempting to tell people to "eff off" although this is not really a good idea.

[3-2-count]

I'm sorry, but once this remark was made to another board member, "He called me a retard. And then said he made my mom walk funny last night" all bets were off in my opinion. Call me a retard, I can take it, but placing ones mother into the conversation warrants any bad remarks this seller receives. No class whatsoever, I don't care how kind he was in person..........

[cozmokramer]

I wonder if he knows this thread exists. Someone should tell him, he might change his business practices and he soon learn his current way isn't good for business.

[calvindog]

I have a recollection of this guy....I was following a 33 Goudey card...in a justcollect auction...the card was sold to this guy but mysteriously went back on sale by justcollect a few days later. When i asked what was up I was told that the buyer (jed whatever his name is) hadn't paid for the card. But then I checked his feedback and he had at least one positive feedback from justcollect on cards purchased the same day.

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by 3-2-count

I'm sorry, but once this remark was made to another board member, "He called me a retard. And then said he made my mom walk funny last night" all bets were off in my opinion. Call me a retard, I can take it, but placing ones mother into the conversation warrants any bad remarks this seller receives. No class whatsoever, I don't care how kind he was in person..........

I agree Tony..very disrespectful and a pretty strange way to treat a potential buyer.

[theuclakid]

I have had many good dealings with Jed, and have known him casually for many years. He is very knowledgeable on vintage cards of all sports....I fully support him...but not knowing all the facts, I am hesitant to comment further on this particular blogs message... I do know that Jed's comments concerning PSA, Ebay and some online buyers are also echoed by most sellers at one time or another, including myself....Bruce Perry (Vintagescards)

this blog is about Jed Drinkwine.....I know another guy named Jed Drinkwater....had a mental lapse for a sec....my bad...sorry

[HRBAKER]

I can honestly say that I have made many offers (some may have been considered low) to many sellers over many years on ebay and off, and none, no not one has ever told me they made my mother walk funny.

[marcdelpercio]

Originally Posted by theuclakid

this blog is about Jed Drinkwine.....I know another guy named Jed Drinkwater....had a mental lapse for a sec....my bad...sorry

Hey, you can't change water into wine. Thanks...you're a lovely audience. Sorry...continue now...

[Butter]

Sent him an offer of $1 for one of his cards through best offer yesterday. Hasn't been denied yet.

[CharleyBrown]

was considering sending him a reasonable offer for his '49 Bowman Jackie Robinson... I guess that's off the table at this point.

[docpatlv]

Originally Posted by theuclakid

this blog is about Jed Drinkwine.....I know another guy named Jed Drinkwater....had a mental lapse for a sec....my bad...sorry

I don't know anything about Jed Drinkwine (or Jed Drinkwater for that matter), he may be lacking in the social skills department. But I can definitely tell you to avoid sending lowball offers to Jed Drinkpiss....he gets downright hostile!!!

[AndyG09]

Originally Posted by docpatlv

I don't know anything about Jed Drinkwine (or Jed Drinkwater for that matter), he may be lacking in the social skills department. But I can definitely tell you to avoid sending lowball offers to Jed Drinkpiss....he gets downright hostile!!!

Killin me, Doc. Awesome!

Best,

Andy

[bh3443]

I do not know this person and this comment is not about him but it's a general theory I've had for over 40 years:
Don't buy from an a--hole because the card will have the stench for eternity.

And during my years promoting shows I always "reserved the right to refuse tables to anyone for any reason", basically the type of dealer in the last sentence.

I like my cards to have nice stories about how I got them and the nice people who I did the transaction with. Call me silly, but that's the way I like it!

[bigtrain]

Bill is 100% dead on with his comment which is why he is known as one of the great guys in the hobby. I would add simply that I make it a practice not to do business with jerks. I may miss a few buying opportunities but I have never regretted sticking to that rule. Further, I would never say something in an email that I would not say in person. Suffice it to say that a guy who insults my mother to my face should be prepared to lose a few teeth. For his sake, I hope Jed learns this lesson soon or that he has a dentist in the family.

[bsuttonosu]

Originally Posted by bh3443

Don't buy from an a--hole because the card will have the stench for eternity.

Right on, Bill. I can remember so many of the positive experiences I had...when and where I bought something and from who...that I don't want that negativity in my collection.

This conversation seems silly to me. There are only two reasons not to provide a complete picture of the card both front and back...laziness or you're hiding something. Given the volume of listings he has, it's not laziness.

And the point was made earlier that the seller has the right to charge whatever he wants as a BIN. By the same token, the buyer has the right to offer whatever he wants. These things aren't fixed retail prices...negotiating is part of this hobby.

As for eBay fees being the reason...totally and completely irrelevant. I heard this same argument from a dealer at the National a few years ago. Told me he had to charge over value to make up for the cost of his table. As if his cost of doing business somehow inherently made the cards more valuable. Guess how much he sold to me? $0. And it was clear from the time I spent at his table that other collectors felt the same way.

I wouldn't worry about it too much. You can't be a seller for long with no buyers.