Ebay Seller Jeddrinkwine

[theuclakid]

I have had many good dealings with Jed, and have known him casually for many years. He is very knowledgeable on vintage cards of all sports....I fully support him...but not knowing all the facts, I am hesitant to comment further on this particular blogs message... I do know that Jed's comments concerning PSA, Ebay and some online buyers are also echoed by most sellers at one time or another, including myself....Bruce Perry (Vintagescards)

this blog is about Jed Drinkwine.....I know another guy named Jed Drinkwater....had a mental lapse for a sec....my bad...sorry

[HRBAKER]

I can honestly say that I have made many offers (some may have been considered low) to many sellers over many years on ebay and off, and none, no not one has ever told me they made my mother walk funny.

[marcdelpercio]

Originally Posted by theuclakid

this blog is about Jed Drinkwine.....I know another guy named Jed Drinkwater....had a mental lapse for a sec....my bad...sorry

Hey, you can't change water into wine. Thanks...you're a lovely audience. Sorry...continue now...

[Butter]

Sent him an offer of $1 for one of his cards through best offer yesterday. Hasn't been denied yet.

[CharleyBrown]

was considering sending him a reasonable offer for his '49 Bowman Jackie Robinson... I guess that's off the table at this point.

[docpatlv]

Originally Posted by theuclakid

this blog is about Jed Drinkwine.....I know another guy named Jed Drinkwater....had a mental lapse for a sec....my bad...sorry

I don't know anything about Jed Drinkwine (or Jed Drinkwater for that matter), he may be lacking in the social skills department. But I can definitely tell you to avoid sending lowball offers to Jed Drinkpiss....he gets downright hostile!!!

[AndyG09]

Originally Posted by docpatlv

I don't know anything about Jed Drinkwine (or Jed Drinkwater for that matter), he may be lacking in the social skills department. But I can definitely tell you to avoid sending lowball offers to Jed Drinkpiss....he gets downright hostile!!!

Killin me, Doc. Awesome!

Best,

Andy

[bh3443]

I do not know this person and this comment is not about him but it's a general theory I've had for over 40 years:
Don't buy from an a--hole because the card will have the stench for eternity.

And during my years promoting shows I always "reserved the right to refuse tables to anyone for any reason", basically the type of dealer in the last sentence.

I like my cards to have nice stories about how I got them and the nice people who I did the transaction with. Call me silly, but that's the way I like it!

[bigtrain]

Bill is 100% dead on with his comment which is why he is known as one of the great guys in the hobby. I would add simply that I make it a practice not to do business with jerks. I may miss a few buying opportunities but I have never regretted sticking to that rule. Further, I would never say something in an email that I would not say in person. Suffice it to say that a guy who insults my mother to my face should be prepared to lose a few teeth. For his sake, I hope Jed learns this lesson soon or that he has a dentist in the family.

[Rich Klein]

And THERE WILL be a next trade and hopefully many more after that == please include a signed copy of that baseball card you posted --- I do collecto Dealer Signed (or Collector) Signed cards like that. Call me strange

Rich

[bsuttonosu]

Originally Posted by bh3443

Don't buy from an a--hole because the card will have the stench for eternity.

Right on, Bill. I can remember so many of the positive experiences I had...when and where I bought something and from who...that I don't want that negativity in my collection.

This conversation seems silly to me. There are only two reasons not to provide a complete picture of the card both front and back...laziness or you're hiding something. Given the volume of listings he has, it's not laziness.

And the point was made earlier that the seller has the right to charge whatever he wants as a BIN. By the same token, the buyer has the right to offer whatever he wants. These things aren't fixed retail prices...negotiating is part of this hobby.

As for eBay fees being the reason...totally and completely irrelevant. I heard this same argument from a dealer at the National a few years ago. Told me he had to charge over value to make up for the cost of his table. As if his cost of doing business somehow inherently made the cards more valuable. Guess how much he sold to me? $0. And it was clear from the time I spent at his table that other collectors felt the same way.

I wouldn't worry about it too much. You can't be a seller for long with no buyers.

[bh3443]

I'm glad to read your responses to my post! Our group here is very special and I am happy to be a part of Net54.

Rich, I'm going to find a couple of my different cards that Jim Bouton's company made for me way back to send you and yes, I'll sign them! The rarest collector/dealer cards were a set put out by an early hobby paper long ago featuring our good friend Bob Thing from Maine. If you can locate the set I'm sure you'll find other hobby pioneers as I recall having a Charlie Brooks card when he was doing the Sport Hobbyist. As for Bob Thing, i called him after the nice SCD article on him and told him he needs to sign my copy!

In case any of you did not see it in SCD, you can also view it on-line on George Verechek's old cardboard site. I googled Bob Thing Article and it came up!
On this subject, I really must say how much I have enjoyed George's articles on hobby figures from Lionel Carter to this recent one. He's doing us a great service by providing a documentation of the pioneers of our hobby just like our leader Leon's doing with his posting of the Bulletins from the 40's! I'm constantly reading old SCD, trader Speaks, etc..,
Thank you my friends,
Bill Hedin
PS: My nomination for the next hobby icon article's our pal Bill Zimpleman.
He's a class act if there ever was one. Knowledgible, friendly, and a person who simply makes you feel what a wonderful hobby we are involved with.

[Rich Klein]

We have a great time at every National talking about --- OLD Rock and Roll Music -- after all who cares about these funny pictures featuring men when we can discuss the great PBS shows on older music that BIll was lucky enough to be in the audience for.....

He has made me some air check tapes in the past and at one show, we were talking about music when I metioned that so and so dealer from Colorado (whom Bill had known for years) was a host of an weekly oldies show.

The next day, Bill told me that he went over there and chatted about music for a couple of hours and arranged to get some music for said dealer to play on his radio show.

Those are some of my favorite memories of Bill Z

Rich

[bh3443]

Rich,
I really enjoyed your post! When I met Bill for the first time at a show outside Cincinnati we talked music over a few drinks. He's the true expert! I mentioned that I was looking for a soundtrack of The Falcon and the Snowman to Bill. A week later he sent it to me at no charge.

On cards, he was the first and biggest type card collector I ever met. We definitely need to nominate him for George's next article!

Have a great weekend, Rich. I start opening Topps series 2 on Monday so I'll have cards to send you in a week!

Your Friend,
Bill Hedin
Those are some of my favorite memories of Bill Z

Rich[/QUOTE]

[orrrules]

Originally Posted by bsuttonosu

Right on, Bill. I can remember so many of the positive experiences I had...when and where I bought something and from who...that I don't want that negativity in my collection.

This conversation seems silly to me. There are only two reasons not to provide a complete picture of the card both front and back...laziness or you're hiding something. Given the volume of listings he has, it's not laziness.

And the point was made earlier that the seller has the right to charge whatever he wants as a BIN. By the same token, the buyer has the right to offer whatever he wants. These things aren't fixed retail prices...negotiating is part of this hobby.

As for eBay fees being the reason...totally and completely irrelevant. I heard this same argument from a dealer at the National a few years ago. Told me he had to charge over value to make up for the cost of his table. As if his cost of doing business somehow inherently made the cards more valuable. Guess how much he sold to me? $0. And it was clear from the time I spent at his table that other collectors felt the same way.

I wouldn't worry about it too much. You can't be a seller for long with no buyers.

You could not be more wrong. Most collectors do not ask for back scans so why wast time making back scans of every card listed. If asked then post a back scan to the item. Negotiating is part of the hobby but there is a limit. If I see something for a good price I buy it. I do not try and chisel the dealer. Some buyers can be very uncouth and make themselves look cheap.

[orrrules]

When a buyer starts citing smr, beckett, and the other one it turns me off to negotiating. Dealers can read and if they wanted to check this out they could. Not every 5, 6, 7, or 8 looks the same and collectors are willing to pay a premium for nice card in a holder.