Performance Enhancing Drugs - How Those Implicated Have Impacted Card Collecting

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Originally Posted by bobbvc

Bill James thinks they will be looked at as pioneers in the future, due to society taking more drugs in general to prolong youth, etc. Find the article if you can, it's a thought provoking read. I hope he's wrong, but wouldn't bet against him.

Yeah that James piece is floating around a few sites. I often get ripped, not on here that I know of yet, because i'm a Bonds fan. And have been since the Arizona State days. If you've got a favorite player or two, and legit like the player, it's hard to turn that off regardless of what you hear or read. I choose to look it at like Bill James or , there's another author i forget the name who had some ped thoughts also. I believe Bonds, McGwire, whoever, they're grown men. They didn't take ped's for my benefit, or any fans benefit. They didn't take them to hurt me as a fan, or any fans. They were looking for competitive advantage. It would be extremely naive of me to think that if a Hank Aaron or Willie Mays were in this particular era that they wouldn't have been interested in a little improvement. And to close on Bonds. If we take the years that most assume he was clean, well, he was arguably the second or third best player in the majors from his breakout 1990 - say, what 99? So lets say he dabbled a bit in the steroid game. He went from being on par or better with those (Sosa, McGwire, Palmeiro, etc) who were likely using, to being significantly better than anyone for a few years there. He was nearly as good as the users before possibly using, and a few levels above the other users with Ped's. As for the card prices, eh, I like being able to pick up virtually any Bonds graded card I want for considerably less than I would have 6-8 years ago. And the record book says, all time HR King