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Old 04-01-2011, 06:02 PM
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for the record-I think the card is good-I would need to hold it to be sure. It appears the Chicago is under the Cubs-asking price is ridiculous just so the seller can show it and maybe get opinions and maybe even a ridiculous offer.

Cubs looks to be in the right place and right color but what do I know..
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Old 04-01-2011, 08:59 PM
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Default Schulte (Front View) "CHICAGO"

I have no idea whether the subject Tinker (HOK) card has been altered, but there is a Schulte (Front View) proof that has "CHICAGO" instead of "CUBS" across his shirt. Owned by K.O. I believe. He wrote about it in an article some years ago.
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Old 04-01-2011, 09:48 PM
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Here is a picture of the two cards overlayed. So, the Cubs letters are perfectly in line with typical cards. No doubt about that. One card is actually laid on top of the other card with 50% opacity on the top card. That shows any inconsistencies with the cards.

I think we pretty much knew this from the side by side comparison but wanted to post this since I did it for my own benefit.

The out of focus is just because the registration is slightly off

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The letter placement is right on but seems a little shakey and not smooth like the others. I think it's bunk but tough to say.
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The owner of this card has contacted me and sent scans showing it has been graded 1.5 by PSA.

I'm adding comparitive scans of the affected area.

I'm in the camp of those who think the eBay listings at $60K was a grab for attention/information rather than for cash.

It looks to me like the CUBS was legitimately printed over whatever was originally on the jersey. But it also looks to be like there is a letter or something else after what is purported to be the O of CHICAGO.

I'm posting this on my blog to seek further input. In the absence of other examples, I have to think this is an uncatalogable anomaly rather than a true variation, but if more were to surface, I think the hobby would have to consider whether there is a "new" variation among T206.
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Bob, Thanks for the update and news. Will be interesting to see if more than this one ever comes to see the light of day... Ralph

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But it also looks to be like there is a letter or something else after what is purported to be the O of CHICAGO.

I agree w/ Bob on this---What could that possibly be after the O? Certainly looks like another letter. In examining the original I see no hint of a uniform wrinkle in that area.

Until this is explained I am still dubious about the card being unaltered in some way.
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I'm posting this on my blog to seek further input. In the absence of other examples, I have to think this is an uncatalogable anomaly rather than a true variation, but if more were to surface, I think the hobby would have to consider whether there is a "new" variation among T206.
Yep and while you are adding more T206 variations why not add the T205 ones also that are well known like the Doc White quotes, and no quotes. Or the new Miller B, D and erased B to look like a D?????? I also know of 2 others. What are they of no importance for the hobby??????
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I sure hope this "thing" is not added to the book... yet

I would never consider that a variation unless I saw 2 of them.... with the same back.

Also what does the flip say? Did PSA completely miss the "CHLIOP" or whatever that is, or did they note it on the flip??

Any why cant it be scanned decently?? I have a $50 scanner that can scan super closeup high quality scans, and these images posted are so low quality and way too small....

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