T206 green portrait Cobb centering....SURVEY....updated

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by peterb69

Ted, thanks for this information. I also have an off centered green cobb piedmont 150 card. I think your sampling proves that the majority are off centered.

Question I have is why? Did they run a few sheets of just Cobb cards as he was a well known player then? Or did the position of Cobb on the sheet was on the top row? If so, then everyone on the top row should also be not centered.

Curious as to the why.

There's only one post here authored by Peter and he has clearly stated that his PIEDMONT 150 green Cobb is...." OFF-CENTER ".

Watch it....your "agenda" is blinding you to the facts.


T

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Watch it....your "agenda" is blinding you to the facts.
T

And your ego is messing with your basic math skills then there are still 12 P150's in this thread even if Peter's is OC that you only counted 6 of. LOL

Rock solid Ted, I guess my agenda has caused you to miss count your own survey..but I bet you already know you missed them...I guess you were just testing me again. LOL


"you must snatch the Cobb OC card from my hands, 95% of rookies such as yourself fail...look it up I did a survey"

"the facts", theres a phrase you tend to say a bit much...but ok here are some facts there are 12 P150's in this thread alone, of which you only counted 6 so going off %'s you missed 50% of the cards pictured in your own survey! But that still didn't stop you from posting your % numbers and claiming them as fact.

That is exactly the whole point Ted. Tossing numbers around and or taking selective info and tweaking it to fit your needs is not objective and will never make something fact. I'm sure I'm alone on this but that's ok by me.

Having a handfull of cards posted here or talked about in collecting cirlces doesn't prove anything. Also your own, or someone elses collecting experiance with a certain card is also not a summary of a card and it's place in the hobby. To draw % from that and base that as fact or gospel is ripe for error.

As this very survey shows you said 95% off all Cobb's are OC I said how did you some to that summary? So unless exactly 95% of all Cobb's shown here are OC then this very post which was to prove your point actually proves mine. I never said the majority of Green Cobb's were not OC. In fact I said most are, even non P150 Cobb's tend to come OC.

You were the one who said 95% of all P150 Cobbs were OC, which by this very own thread they are not. That means your numbers by thier very nature were incorrect.

Cheers,

John

[Leon]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

And your ego is messing with your basic math skills then there are still 12 P150's in this thread even if Peter's is OC. LOL

Hey John and Ted
This stuff is supposed to be fun. Please take it easy on each other. Next time we all meet you guys can leg wrestle or something.....See ya'll at Oaks....

[FrankWakefield]

Amen, Leon.

[FrankWakefield]

I've never owned a green Cobb. I have never noticed the off center tendencies with the card. This started out as an informative thread about that. And it devolved a bit. When I saw 95% I translated that to 'a bunch', 'most', 'generally', and 'about all'. It matters not whether it's 95% dead on, or merely eighty-something percent, or what. Most of the cards are skewed so they have a short top margin. I had not noticed that. Now I know it.

I've also learned a bit about some un-necessarily sharp remarks, we'd all been better off without those. Please.

[tedzan]

"ALMOST" or "SOMEWHAT" centered Cobb's are not counted.

Only the obviously CENTERED cards with the PIEDMONT 150 back are considered.

And so far, they are........

2 ...... John McDaniel

1 ...... Chuck W (CW)

1 ...... Joe (jcmtiger)

1 ...... Tsaiko

1 ...... Dave H (toppcat)

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6

[tedzan]

I will quote Billy Joel


I DIDN'T START THIS FIRE ! !


TED Z

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by tedzan

"ALMOST" or "SOMEWHAT" centered Cobb's are not counted.

Only the obviously CENTERED cards with the PIEDMONT 150 back are considered.

And so far, they are........

2 ...... John McDaniel

1 ...... Chuck W (CW)

1 ...... Joe (jcmtiger)

1 ...... Tsaiko

1 ...... Dave H (toppcat)

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6

LOL Ted I give up I can't make you count.....but for those of you who put faith in these lists created by folks and take them as gospel let this be a record for why you should take many things presented as fact with a grain of salt.

Frank, I agree I think most collectors of T206's have found Cobb's (Green) to be OC for the most part. Nobody has ever argued that, where this went wrong is when Ted chimed in on the past thread and posted a % number as fact of which I made the mistake of asking how he came to such a number...and then made the bigger mistake of not agreeing with him.

Oh and forget the fact he claimed one should by a Hindu Green Cobb if one would want a centered Green Cobb, that in itself was insinuating that he has seen Hindu backed Green Cobb's centered, but when corrected it was an elaborate test by Ted to see if we were awake.

Cheers,

John

[tedzan]

Has anyone on this forum been a stronger advocate that American Litho. NEVER printed any T206 (and T205) Cobb's with a HINDU back than me ? ? ? ?

Do I have to dig up all my threads these past two years to prove this ?

How quickly some forget !


TED Z

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

That is exactly the whole point Ted. Tossing numbers around and or taking selective info and tweaking it to fit your needs is not objective and will never make something fact. I'm sure I'm alone on this but that's ok by me.

No, you're not alone on this.

[Ease]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

"you must snatch the Cobb OC card from my hands, 95% of rookies such as yourself fail...look it up I did a survey"

LOL! Classic.