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Old 01-16-2011, 06:11 PM
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George Sisler.
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Sisler? .340 lifetime average and two .400 + years? Please, share your rationale.
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Old 01-16-2011, 07:26 PM
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Disproportionately low on base percentage and slugging average. Bill James agrees, by the way, calling him among the most overrated players of all time.
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From Bill James' tome at 449
"Perhaps the most over-rated player in baseball history..... Sisler had a lower on-base percentage, in his career, than Fred McGriff, Alvin Davis, Earl Torgeson, Jack Clark, Mike Schmidt, Mark McGwire, or Gene Tenace. Or Ralph Kiner, or Elmer Valo, or a hundred other guys who didn't hit anywhere near .300."
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I agree with a lot of what Bill James says but every once in a while he writes some of the most assinine things (usually when he is focusing on one statistical category--in this case OBP). To say that Sisler is among the MOST OVERRATED ever is silly. The guy was a great ballplayer and was viewed as such during his playing career. He was essentially the Tony Gwynn or Ichiro of his era--hardly a bad thing! Most overrated is a ridiculous statement when it comes to Sisler.
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Agreed Rhett. And that awful obp is higher than Ichiro's career obp.
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Agreed Rhett. And that awful obp is higher than Ichiro's career obp.
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