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View Poll Results: Options for the new Water Cooler Talk section
Allow Religion and Politics 42 17.00%
Allow Religion 0 0%
Allow Politics 7 2.83%
Don't allow either 133 53.85%
Don't make this section (please post why) 17 6.88%
I don't care....do what you want to 48 19.43%
Voters: 247. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-11-2011, 02:40 PM
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I voted YES on politics. I don't care if you want to add religion but that's kind of a "Yawner" topic to me.
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:55 PM
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If you have it in its own place like watercooler sports then if someone doesn't want to look at it and or participate then they don't have to. Lou
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Old 01-11-2011, 03:09 PM
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You could try it for 30 days on a trial basis, monitor it, and then decide if it is worth keeping.
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Old 01-11-2011, 03:22 PM
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I think there are very good points on both sides of this issue, and I like the fact that Leon is thinking about improving this forum through innovations such as new topic areas. The auction tracker for pre-war cards was a nice recent addition, for example.

That said, I side with those who said no. It is simply human nature that issues discussed in that forum will spill over into the core focus of this website and that will likely cause problems. After all, there are plenty of forums where all of us can discuss politics, religion or anything else for that matter.

This forum focuses on vintage baseball and it is probably the best on the web. I am not convinced that this forum needs to be all things to all people or that it makes sense to deviate from what it does so well right now. I think it should continue to do what it does and do it better than any other forum.

Is the reason for proposing this that the number of members is decreasing or the amount of posts is decreasing? If those are the issues, then I understand the desire among the moderators to make the site more sticky so people use it more often and contribute more. But I'm not convinced that bringing in issues that are inherently controversial, such as politics and religion, will solve those problems. I agree with those who argue that one of the best parts of this site is that it expressly doesn't do that already. It is an oasis from that.

That said, I like the democratic approach of a poll plus posting so that everyone can weigh in.

While I disagree with those who argue that it would be fine or at least not as problematic as the rest of us fear, I think they have made clear, cogent arguments for their position.
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Old 01-11-2011, 04:26 PM
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Ok Leon, so you want to have "yard duty" everyday on the play ground? Do you really want that head ache.

I'm going to assume that this is going to be an unmonitored area of the board that requires NO MODERATION - call it an "anything goes" part of this board.

I see much more down side than up side. I see it possibly negatively impacting the overall "calmness" of the main forum. Little squabbles will pour from the "play ground" into the real forum.

Go for it but be warned you are opening Pandora's Box. It's the proverbial "can of worms" that really doesn't need to be opened.
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Old 01-11-2011, 04:35 PM
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Ok Leon, so you want to have "yard duty" everyday on the play ground? Do you really want that head ache.

I'm going to assume that this is going to be an unmonitored area of the board that requires NO MODERATION - call it an "anything goes" part of this board.

I see much more down side than up side. I see it possibly negatively impacting the overall "calmness" of the main forum. Little squabbles will pour from the "play ground" into the real forum.

Go for it but be warned you are opening Pandora's Box. It's the proverbial "can of worms" that really doesn't need to be opened.
Well said, Fred.
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Old 01-11-2011, 05:02 PM
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I voted no as I look at this forum as an escape from that stuff. This can also be a very vocal group (that's a good thing) with strong opinions (also good) but it could undermine relationships otherwise based upon our mutual appreciation for the hobby. There are plenty of other places to hold those discussions anyway...
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