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View Poll Results: Options for the new Water Cooler Talk section
Allow Religion and Politics 42 17.00%
Allow Religion 0 0%
Allow Politics 7 2.83%
Don't allow either 133 53.85%
Don't make this section (please post why) 17 6.88%
I don't care....do what you want to 48 19.43%
Voters: 247. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-11-2011, 12:56 PM
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Daryl- I have plenty of opinions, and others do too. I would love to see a political discussion that was both civil and constructive. But we've had them on the board in the past and they end up becoming shouting matches. That's all I meant.

I think it's great for people to express themselves, but look at the political discourse in America today. It's really horrendous what is going on, and I don't like it one bit.

That said, I was just chatting with Leon and we both agreed there is nothing wrong with starting a section to discuss politics. If it gets too nasty it can always be shut down.
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Old 01-11-2011, 01:03 PM
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Default very important distinction

I want to post a new post about a very, very important distinction I obviously didn't make clear. This new section, if instituted will NOT be on the main board, will NOT be on the memorabilia section and of course will NOT be in the BST section. It will be its own section where the Post War Cards and Watercooler talk already are. So, if you come to the board to get away from it all, as long as you don't click on that section for Post War and Watercooler talk, you will never see a thread about it. I just want to make that abundantly clear.

Also, it looks like the voting is approximately 2-1 to not allow politics and religion but there is also an equal amount that don't care. If it is not more overwhelming than that I could see potentially (not for sure by any means) starting out allowing them and seeing how it goes. We can always make it taboo if it gets out of hand. So, we will see where this leads us. Good thoughts so far. One last thing, it will be assumed that if you don't vote NO to the section, and vote for something else, then you are ok with the section itself. Regards
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Old 01-11-2011, 01:07 PM
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And I doubt we will have any discussion about religion. I mean, what about religion would people want to talk about? Probably wouldn't get any posts.
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Old 01-11-2011, 01:47 PM
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I have been part of forums where all of the OT stuff leaks into the rest of the threads. Although I might not want to read the other topics, I always click on new posts when signing on, so I would have to see the titles of those water cooler topics. I come here to get away from "real world" stuff. JM2¢.
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I want to post a new post about a very, very important distinction I obviously didn't make clear. This new section, if instituted will NOT be on the main board, will NOT be on the memorabilia section and of course will NOT be in the BST section. It will be its own section where the Post War Cards and Watercooler talk already are. So, if you come to the board to get away from it all, as long as you don't click on that section for Post War and Watercooler talk, you will never see a thread about it. I just want to make that abundantly clear.

Also, it looks like it is being about 2-1 to not have politics and religion but there is also an equal amount that don't care. If it is not more overwhelming than that I could see potentially (not for sure by any means) starting out allowing them and seeing how it goes. We can always make it taboo if it gets out of hand. So, we will see where this leads us. Good thoughts so far. One last thing, it will be assumed that if you don't vote NO to the section, and vote for something else, then you are ok with the section itself. Regards
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Not correct.

As ibuysportsephemera pointed out, if upon entering (or anytime) click on "New Posts" in the menu bar at the top of the page you will get the new posts since your last visit from all sections of the forum including the Water Cooler and other areas.
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Old 01-11-2011, 01:50 PM
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Not correct.

As ibuysportsephemera pointed out, if upon entering (or anytime) click on "New Posts" in the menu bar at the top of the page you will get the new posts since your last visit from all sections of the forum including the Water Cooler and other areas.
Hi Tim
Then my mistake. I have never clicked on that option so didn't know. thanks much....
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:02 PM
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The problem with adding general topic section is that even if you are not interested or pledge not to go read it...our curiosity gets the best of you and you end up reading and then end up getting involved...I'd rather not have access to the key that unlocks the chastity belt...
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:08 PM
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I voted no to both. I don't see any way that it wouldn't spill over, and think having a forum such as that would greatly damage the board as we know it.
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I voted YES on politics. I don't care if you want to add religion but that's kind of a "Yawner" topic to me.
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Daryl- I have plenty of opinions, and others do too. I would love to see a political discussion that was both civil and constructive. But we've had them on the board in the past and they end up becoming shouting matches. That's all I meant.
I understand, and also don't want to see any shouting matches.
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Old 01-11-2011, 01:25 PM
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After putting the little green dot in "don't allow either", I moved it to allow both. We'd be better off to talk cards, and not all of the other stuff. There are places for that, and on the card board isn't the place. But to help keep it 'not the place', allowing that stuff in the water cooler gives it a place. So anyone wanting to soapbox to that stuff can do it at the water cooler, and NOT in a regular thread. Maybe it you give it a place to go, it will go there, if it must be at all...

And thanks for asking us!
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Old 01-11-2011, 01:26 PM
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Thanks Leon...However, I still think that you are inviting trolls to the party. I hope it doesn't become too divisive.

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Old 01-11-2011, 01:34 PM
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Thanks Leon...However, I still think that you are inviting trolls to the party. I hope it doesn't become too divisive.

Jeff
If I am not mistaking a troll is an anonymous person causing trouble, mainly. Since there is no anonymity allowed (there is privacy allowed) there won't be any trolls. Otherwise, I do understand what you are saying. It's interesting that the don't cares and the ones being ok with the politics and religion are exactly equal to those not wanting either. The deciding few votes could actually be the folks that say allowing politics would be ok. As Barry said, we doubt anyone will really talk about religion very much anyway...and the poll pretty much affirms that. No decision yet and even after the poll I will mull it over. So far it is very overwhelming that there is support for the section....with or without the subjects being voted on. I appreciate everyone's thoughtful responses. If anyone thinks that I already had my mind made up, that is not the case. It's not made up yet either.....I do think we have a really great board, with wonderful members, and I vow not to screw it up. regards
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I see no upside to including politics and religious postings here; I have never seen it work on any non-political or non-religious forum. I love to yammer about this stuff as much as the next guy, maybe a little more, but I think it would end up as very divisive.

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I hope Leon over rules the voting & says, as in the 1980's movie Risky Business, "Sometimes you gotta say ....."

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I dont believe in a god (because Im scared of meeting heaven's residents).

But I think such a section could be entertaining!
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Heck, I voted "dont care" to both and I will not participate if its installed (and shame on me if I allow myself to get sucked in), really Im now curious as all get-out on what Leon wants to post. I say if it gets shot down, we give Leon a moment of grace to post whatever he wants, one time, on his own board.
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