A new section of the board.....

[jrog007]

Even though religion and politics are incendiary topics, level-headed, intelligent adults should be able to discuss these topics without malice and ill-will toward others. I think that a section for free speech is a great idea.

[Jewish-collector]

There should be a section where members can discuss politics & religion. Many other messages boards, if not all have a section for this.

I say yeah.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by jrog007

Even though religion and politics are incendiary topics, level-headed, intelligent adults should be able to discuss these topics without malice and ill-will toward others.

You've been around here a while, haven't you?

[WWGjohn]

I resent being referred to as a sociopath simply because I voted against having this new forum section. This is exactly the sort of venom that has often turned me off to this forum. Since I don't post here very often, I'm my lack of presence will not be noticed.

John

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by canadiangoudeyjohn

I resent being referred to as a sociopath simply because I voted against having this new forum section. This is exactly the sort of venom that has often turned me off to this forum. Since I don't post here very often, I'm my lack of presence will not be noticed.

John

Please save me the trouble of having to go back and re-read 130+ posts, and point me in the direction of whomever called you a sociopath. I will then find some niggling fault with their personality and verbally slap them around a little.


(Note: I don't care if there is a new section or not. I voted no religion or politics. I figure, if we're not talking cards, politics, or religion, there isn't much to say anyway. If that makes me a sociopath also, so be it. I'll wear it proudly.)


Edited to add: OK I found it. It was iggy, for god's sake! (Can I say that without making it a religious post?) Everything he says is tongue in cheek! If you're going to get riled up at someone, please get riled up at Rob D.

[iggyman]

Heck, I didn't even know how to spell sociopath, so I had to google it. I thought it would make my point..........my post was meant in jest, just trying to make Leon realize that perhaps he might have hurt my feelings a little bit, by being so harsh on those that voted against Christopher Columbus sailing into the sunset. But I'm over it now and don't take it personally, like that wise philosopher Tom Brady said, "I've been called worst."

Lovely Day...

P.S. I'm over it now, simply because I came to the realization that it was a rigged election (just wanted to make that clear)..........(please notice the smiley face, I'm not really in a mood for being banned).

[Leon]

Originally Posted by iggyman

Heck, I didn't even know how to spell sociopath, so I had to google it. I thought it would make my point..........my post was meant in jest, just trying to make Leon realize that perhaps he might have hurt my feelings a little bit, by being so harsh on those that voted against Christopher Columbus sailing into the sunset. But I'm over it now and don't take it personally, like that wise philosopher Tom Brady said, "I've been called worst."

Lovely Day...

P.S. I'm over it now, simply because I came to the realization that it was a rigged election (just wanted to make that clear)..........(please notice the smiley face, I'm not really in a mood for being banned).

Iggy, my apologies if I hurt your feelings. I have always liked you and your posts, even though a couple of times, in several years, we might have disagreed on something. For the record I also profusely apologized in some private emails with Fred....for jumping too quickly. I sort of felt like I was being piled on and tested, at that moment. I am sure it's a bit difficult to understand but being where the buck stops isn't quite all it's cracked up to be, on many occasions. Other times I guess I get to be the life of the party best regards

[FUBAR]

Originally Posted by jrog007

Even though religion and politics are incendiary topics, level-headed, intelligent adults should be able to discuss these topics without malice and ill-will toward others. I think that a section for free speech is a great idea.

Hold on to that Rainbow! You don't need to be Nostradamus to foresee issues with these topics... guys cannot even agree on baseball cards!

[barrysloate]

What we need today is people with fewer opinions about what is wrong with the country. Once the two sides get at it we have nothing but shouting and noise. Nothing gets accomplished today when the left and the right start debating points. The politicians and the radio loudmouths have failed abysmally, and we won't do any better here. Do what you can to be a better person, and turn off the television and the radio.

[BleedinBlue]

My opinion is pretty close to many others stated. There are a plethora of avenues for these often heated discussions. I go to those sites when I want to go to those sites. This site is a totally different and generally peaceful area for me to spend some time avoiding work. I'd prefer to keep it that way. Now, if there were a way that I could avoid even being aware of this little corner of the site then I wouldn't care. However, given that there is always a most recent thread title shown from the main board I'm not sure how I would avoid it. While I might try to stay away and keep this site as my apolitical area of release, I'm not sure I could avoid the temptation to join in on a Sarah Palin flame thread and that's just not the point.

Besides, do we really need to know what each of the Bruce's opinion is on politics or religion?

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I put don't allow either. Discussing politics is too toxic these days and I'm done with it. And it wouldn't be a bad idea for others to sit quietly and do the same.

Originally Posted by barrysloate

What we need today is people with fewer opinions about what is wrong with the country. Once the two sides get at it we have nothing but shouting and noise. Nothing gets accomplished today when the left and the right start debating points. The politicians and the radio loudmouths have failed abysmally, and we won't do any better here. Do what you can to be a better person, and turn off the television and the radio.

Sit quietly and have fewer opinions? People are not robots.

I voted yes to both by the way.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Sit quietly and have fewer opinions? People are not robots.

Nowhere did Barry say to not have opinions.

[triwak]

I voted no on both, for the reason stated by several others: Spill over! Animosity and oneupmanship would surely bleed into the real board - and I don't wanna hear it!

[baseballart]

Originally Posted by triwak

I voted no on both, for the reason stated by several others: Spill over! Animosity and oneupmanship would surely bleed into the real board - and I don't wanna hear it!

Agreed. Disagreements on the p/r board will surely spill over.

Max

[barrysloate]

Daryl- I have plenty of opinions, and others do too. I would love to see a political discussion that was both civil and constructive. But we've had them on the board in the past and they end up becoming shouting matches. That's all I meant.

I think it's great for people to express themselves, but look at the political discourse in America today. It's really horrendous what is going on, and I don't like it one bit.

That said, I was just chatting with Leon and we both agreed there is nothing wrong with starting a section to discuss politics. If it gets too nasty it can always be shut down.

[MooseWithFleas]

My experience with religious and political discussions on forum is pretty poor. No actual discussion ever occurs and it's just people trying to force their ideas down someone elses throat.

That being said, as a long time reader and new poster, this forum has one of the classiest user bases around

[rdixon1208]

I voted Yes to both. It's not like Leon is talking about adding a Politics/Religion section to the board. A water cooler section with less rules would be cool with me. The key is prohibiting these conversations/debates from spilling over to the main board.

[Tcards-Please]

I voted to allow both. For those that don't want it, they don't have to go into it. Why not provide an avenue for all and those that don't want to venture into that topic certainly aren't required too. Why negate the opportunity for those that would like to carry on an adult conversation about things other than cards with like minded card collecting members?

Just my .03

r/
Frank

[Kawika]

I vote no way, Jose. We'll still have our occasional train wrecks; that ought to suffice. In my six decades of life I can never recall a time when there has been such polarity in this country. The "Generation Gap" of the sixties has nothing on the right vs. left divide of today. I remember once when people of Democrat and Republican persuasions actually got along for the most part - it wasn't that big of a deal. Nowadays we have marginalized each other to the point that I sometimes wonder what it had to be like in America in the 1850's - it's scary stuff. I don't want to know that Ted Z. is really a communist sympathizer or that Jim B. is actually an Exalted Cyclops in the Imperial Klan. I just want to talk about baseball cards, and, unlike T206, I want to relate to them as normal folks just like we would have thirty years ago.