FYI....T206 LENOX (Black & Brown) confirmed lists

[tedzan]

Hey guys......

We have a confirmed Pfeister (throwing) with a Brown LENOX back, but not a Black LENOX back.

I find this very strange, as all other Brown LENOX cards have been confirmed with their normal LENOX back.

This Pfeister card should exist with a normal LENOX back.....it is just a matter of time before one shows up.

Anyhow, has anyone out there seen (or have) this front/back combo ?


Thanks,

TED Z

[Abravefan11]

Hi Ted -

It's not surprising to me that a Brown Lenox has been confirmed for a card that hasn't been confirmed with a Black Lenox. IMO the Brown Lenox were a separate print run from the Black and thus could have (and probably did) have a different combination of front images on the sheet used than any of the Black Lenox sheets.

Most Brown Lenox will be found with Black Lenox also because most of the available 109 images were printed with a Black Lenox back. But I don't think we can say for certain that because one is found with Brown it should also be found with Black.

In addition Overall - (Hands At Face Level/Yellow Sky) has also been confirmed with Brown Lenox and not with Black Lenox.

There are still new confirmations of both Brown and Black Lenox to come in the future and we will learn more as they surface.

- All the best

[tedzan]

Black LENOX confirmed list........



To date, 80 cards have been confirmed. The series breakdown is as follows......

350/460 Series......................46 confirmed cards

Ames (hands over head)
Baker
Bender (no trees)
Bradley (bat)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Burch (fielding)
Chance (yellow portrait)
Chase (blue portrait)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Crawford (bat)
Davis (A's)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
Mathewson (dark cap)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
McQuillan (bat)
Murphy (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Street (catching)
White (pitching)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Willis (throwing)
Wiltse (throwing)
CYoung (glove)


The 460-only series is complete with 34 confirmed LENOX cards.

NOTE....that I have interspersed the LENOX and Red HINDU cards in this series. Recall that the
LENOX and Red HINDU cards are mutually exclusive in the 460-only series.

34 confirmed LENOX.....................12 confirmed Red HINDU

Abbaticcio (blue sleeve)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (follow thru)
Bergen (catching)
Bescher (arms up)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (arms up)
Camnitz (arms side)
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
.................................................. Crandall (cap)
.................................................. Devore
Doyle (portrait)
.................................................. Duffy
.................................................. Ford
Frill
.................................................. Gandil
.................................................. Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hands)
.................................................. Hummell
Lake (ball-St Louis)
Latham
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
.................................................. McGraw (glove hip)
Merkle (throwing)
Meyers (portrait)
Murray (portrait)
Needham
Oldring (bat)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne
.................................................. Pfeffer
Schaefer (Washington)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (bat)
Schulte (back view)
Seymour (portrait)
.................................................. Sheckard (glove)
Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
.................................................. Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on)
.................................................. Wheat
Wilste (portrait-cap)


These 17 subjects have NOT yet been confirmed; however, they are possible LENOX candidates......

Berger
Conroy (bat)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Evers (bat-yellow sky)
Jennings (both hands)
Mullin (bat)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove shows)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Sweeney (fielding)
Tinker (bat off shoulder)
Wagner (bat on right)
Wilhelm (bat)

Check out your T206 cards to see if you have any one of these with the LENOX back.

Thanks,

TED Z

[jimivintage]

Bringing this thread back after a 2 year absence from the front page.

Question, I've seen on t206resource.com that a McGraw w/ cap BROWN Lenox might be possible, but I was curious if anyone has seen one yet.....or should I just no longer worry about it's existence.

[Abravefan11]

Due to the small number of known brown Lenox there isn't enough information, at this time, to say with certainty that a McGraw (w/ Cap) isn't possible. My personal opinion based on what we do know now is that it's unlikely.

[jimivintage]

Originally Posted by Abravefan11

Due to the small number of known brown Lenox there isn't enough information, at this time, to say with certainty that a McGraw (w/ Cap) isn't possible. My personal opinion based on what we do know now is that it's unlikely.

Agreed, but hoping someone someday will contact me and say, "Psssst, dude, I've got one!"

[tedzan]

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Black LENOX confirmed list........


To date....a total of 76 subjects have been confirmed. The series breakdown is as follows......

350/460 Series..........................42 confirmed cards

Ames (hands over head)
Baker
Bender (no trees)
Bradley (bat)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Burch (fielding)
Chance (yellow portrait)......**
Chase (blue portrait)...........**
Chase (dark cap)................**
Cobb (red portrait)..............**
Crawford (bat)
Davis (A's)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)

Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
McQuillan (bat)
Murphy (bat)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Street (catching)
White (pitching)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Willis (throwing)

Wiltse (throwing)
CYoung (glove)


460-only series is complete with 34 confirmed LENOX cards.

NOTE....that I have interspersed the LENOX and Red HINDU cards in this series. The
LENOX and Red HINDU cards are mutually exclusive in the 460-only series.

34 confirmed LENOX.....................12 confirmed Red HINDU (Exclusive 12)

Abbaticcio (blue sleeve)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (follow thru)
Bergen (catching)
Bescher (arms over head)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (arms over head)
Camnitz (arms side)
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
.................................................. Crandall (cap)
.................................................. Devore
Doyle (portrait)
.................................................. Duffy
.................................................. Ford
Frill
.................................................. Gandil
.................................................. Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hands)
.................................................. Hummel
Lake (ball-St Louis)
Latham
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
.................................................. McGraw (glove hip)
Merkle (throwing)
Meyers (portrait)
Murray (portrait)
Needham
Oldring (bat)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne
.................................................. Pfeffer
Schaefer (Washington)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (bat)
Schulte (back view)
Seymour (portrait)
.................................................. Sheckard (glove)
Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
.................................................. Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on)
.................................................. Wheat
Wilste (portrait-cap)


These 21 subjects have NOT yet been confirmed; however, they are possible LENOX candidates......

Berger
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Conroy (bat)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Evers (bat-yellow sky)........**
Jennings (both hands)
Lajoie (bat)
Mathewson (dark cap)........**
Mullin (bat)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Overall (sunset sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove shows)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Sweeney (fielding)
Tinker (bat off shoulder)
Wagner (bat on right)
Wilhelm (bat)


NOTE......** denotes a Super-Print


This survey is still a work in progress....so, check-out your T206 cards to see if you have any one of these 21 with the LENOX back.

Thanks,


TED Z
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LOOKING for this T206 guy to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects)

SHECKARD (glove)
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[tedzan]

A picture is worth 1000 words....so, illustrated here are the 16 advertisement backs that were printed on the T206 Subjects in the 460-only Series............


..... Factory #25 .....

.... Factory #30 ....... Factory #42 ........... Factory #42 .....
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......................... Factory #42 ....................




T-Rex TED