My two cents: When a team moves, thats it.

[dstudeba]

Originally Posted by Matt

Actually, that one is not complicated at all - as I recall, the city of Cleveland sued Art Modell when he moved the team in order to retain the rights of the team name and it's history.

One could argue the lawsuit also makes it complicated.

[chaddurbin]

i see M's pov but don't agree with it. i'm a big dodgers fan and do consider brooklyn part of their history...having gone to prewar i'd stretch it even further to the bill dahlens and zach wheats and the superbas (super bas? superb as?...???)

[Rickyy]

Nope I still consider NY and SF Giants as the same.

[tbob]

Powder, I wasn't aware of that, still they don't really connect back to the Senators. This year all year long we had to listen to the 50 greatest Twins of all time and see such dynamic players as Michael Cuddyer instead of Goose Goslin, Brad Radke instead of Walter Johnson etc. I guess if they had called themselves the Minneapolis Senators there might not be this problem.
Yes, I get the 50 year anniversary thing and the new stadium etc. but they should have a huge pictoral banner or at least a statue of The Big Train somewhere at the stadium.

[kcohen]

I've always been curious as to why the Orioles never acknowledge nor recognize any aspect of their St. Louis Browns origins.

[Orioles1954]

I am a die-hard Orioles fan and could give two craps less about the St. Louis Browns. Different town, colors and name.

[TexasLeaguer]

There really is no right answer to this question because it is what it is. If you are a fan of one team and don't want to acknowledge its past from another city/incarnation then don't. It doesn't change the fact that certain parts of an organization did move from one place to another. It reminds me of the age old Ship of Theseus paradox. It really is a question of identity and ultimately semantics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

[FrankWakefield]

I agree with what tBob said back there.... but I do believe that the Twins are the way they are as they ignore heritage and tradition, I'd expect that after what I saw in 1987.

[jimm]

I became a Giants fan since they are my hometown team. A Giants fan, not just an SF Giants fan! You think Monte Irvin doesn't feel ties to the organization because he didn't play here, his number is on the wall, he was here for the game the other day, I think he'd disagree.

[Bilko G]

Originally Posted by Rickyy

Nope I still consider NY and SF Giants as the same.

so do i because they are

[PowderedH2O]

If it were up to me, the stats would be frozen with the old city, like they were with the Browns. For example, I live in Raleigh, NC and follow the Carolina Hurricanes. They were the Hartford/New England Whalers for many years before they came to NC. The record books all show our leaders as the combined leaders of Hurricanes and Whalers. But I didn't care about the team when they were in Hartford and neither did anyone else here. And I am sure that the Whalers fans in Hartford do not actively follow the Hurricanes leaders (except maybe to root against them). I'd just as soon just see our all-time leaders as being our guys from Carolina and the Hartford Whalers can just be that. Did the San Francisco fans follow Mel Ott? Did Oakland fans follow Connie Mack and Jimmie Foxx? Nope. Let the stats stay where they are. Just my opinion.

Sam