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Old 09-17-2010, 02:05 PM
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maybe it was a different NRMT '55 mays bobby submitted?

a small favor...can you guys stop being dirtbags and shady as hell so i won't have to block/ignore you guys on the board for my viewing pleasure?
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:07 PM
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:31 PM
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Maybe Bobby will answer the question of not having it graded but saying he did, on the other board? Not a good day for Bobby.......unless it's a different raw '55 Bowman Mays in NRMT shape .
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Old 09-17-2010, 03:08 PM
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right now I am currently selling a RAW card on eBay right now. If it was trimmed or altered, I would state it in the description so no interested bidder is mislead.

In fact, 95-98% of my vintage cards are raw. I would like to have them graded at the present time don't simply due to costs. I enjoy collecting whether they are RAW or graded. You can usually pick up RAW cards a little cheaper than graded material.
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Old 09-17-2010, 03:35 PM
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Leon...I am at work now so I can't respond like I wanted to. Carol has since locked the thread. I have never intentionally screwed anyone over, and the whole thing has been blown out of proportion. Nam is a low life POS who hates me ever since day 1 without really knowing me. I refuse to resort to their low-life "witch hunt".......people who have dealt with me in the past know I am straight up and honorable. It is a popularity contest though, and Nam has alot of cronies....
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I haven't been involved in this at all and don't have a dog in the fight, but it sure does seem that the seller admitted back in April that he submitted the card to PSA and it came back 'evidence of trimming', and then re-sold it last month without revealing he had previously submitted it.

It doesn't matter who is a "POS" or anything else; that is a pretty solid and damning fact.
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Old 09-17-2010, 03:50 PM
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I sub between 100-200 cards a month with PSA......I also have raw cards in every nook and crannie that I have never subbed. Can I keep up with everything I subbed, didn't sub, what auction house I bought them from? No - not really. If you saw how many raw cards I have strowed around my house, you would have thought it was a war zone. I sold two Reggie Jackson rookies around the same time period and both were disclosed as rejected by PSA. Why on earth why I disclose those two Reggie rookies and not the Willie Mays!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! I have nothing to gain by lying. If I subbed it and forgot I subbed it, then I apologize........like I said, I am still at work, so I can't really express my thoughts like I want, but this **** has gone on far enough!
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Leon...I am at work now so I can't respond like I wanted to. Carol has since locked the thread. I have never intentionally screwed anyone over, and the whole thing has been blown out of proportion. Nam is a low life POS who hates me ever since day 1 without really knowing me. I refuse to resort to their low-life "witch hunt".......people who have dealt with me in the past know I am straight up and honorable. It is a popularity contest though, and Nam has alot of cronies....
Good idea. Dodge the question and sling mud the other way. Ever think about running for public office?
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after I picked up a 1968 Mantle, sent it in and had PSA return it as trimmed. They caught something I didn't originally see, and I agree it was trimmed.
Instead of trying to get my money back from seller, I turned around and sold it on Ebay, with the full disclosure that it came back as trimmed, and included scans with the un-slabbed rejection flip. Got almost what I paid for it, which simply means that I was stupid to think I was getting a good deal in the first place.

Good learning experience.

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Leon...I am at work now so I can't respond like I wanted to. Carol has since locked the thread. I have never intentionally screwed anyone over, and the whole thing has been blown out of proportion. Nam is a low life POS who hates me ever since day 1 without really knowing me. I refuse to resort to their low-life "witch hunt".......people who have dealt with me in the past know I am straight up and honorable. It is a popularity contest though, and Nam has alot of cronies....
Seems like a long answer when you simply could have said "Yes, I submitted it prior to selling it raw." or "No, I never submitted it before selling it raw."

I don't know you. I don't know Nam. I am not a registered member of CU and rarely read that board. I'm just going off of what I have read here.
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maybe it was a different NRMT '55 mays bobby submitted?

a small favor...can you guys stop being dirtbags and shady as hell so i won't have to block/ignore you guys on the board for my viewing pleasure?

LOL.

OK. I'll try.
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