What's the difference??

Doug · #1 09-17-2010, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by glynparson

Corners on young are cut off corners on killian are ripped off. its that simple.

This may sound like a dumb question, but if that's the case couldn't he just rip a thin piece of paper off each corner of the Young and get a numerical grade then?

barrysloate · #2 09-17-2010, 09:11 AM

Doug- it's actually a smart and obvious question.

Jim VB · #3 09-17-2010, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug

This may sound like a dumb question, but if that's the case couldn't he just rip a thin piece of paper off each corner of the Young and get a numerical grade then?

I don't think it's a dumb question. I've never felt that, at this end of the grading spectrum, the value of a PSA 1 is ALWAYS more than a PSA A. I think the appearance of the card becomes the driving factor.

And if you're doing the registry thing... you're probably not buying either.

glynparson · #4 09-17-2010, 09:44 AM

You could do that and probably get a numerical grade. Its just like a psa 1 mk you can rip off the mk part of the back of a card and now get a psa 1 and the card looks much worse. Like Jim VB said at this end of the spectrum you are not necessarily going to get any more for an Authentic grade then a 1 2 or even 3 sometimes. Eye appeal definetly comes into play at that point.

scooter729 · #5 09-17-2010, 11:02 AM

The "A" grade has been used very subjectively, and in some cases, not at all. Not to derail, but it has always confused me why I couldn't even get an "A" grade for this OJ. If you look closely, someone very carefully cut out the "NY Giants" reference (just on the front, not cut through to the back) and glued on "Brooklyn" from another card. I have to imagine this was done in 1890, when he was with Brooklyn, since he went back to the Giants after that.

Why couldn't I get just an "A" for the card, just so I can have it protected in the slab? If they grade trimmed and otherwise altered cards, why not this? PSA and SGC both rejected this and said they wouldn't grade it.

barrysloate · #6 09-17-2010, 11:07 AM

That's a tricky one Scott. That is technically two different cards glued together. I could see it creating a problem with authentication.

Matthew H · #7 09-17-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by barrysloate

That's a tricky one Scott. That is technically two different cards glued together. I could see it creating a problem with authentication.

Isn't the "restored" T206 Wagner technically two different cards glued together?

barrysloate · #8 09-17-2010, 01:39 PM

I don't know what was done to that Wagner. I assumed the restoration had to do with inpainting. I will say that I don't think there is a consistent policy when it comes to encapsulating these unusual cards. There's a Just So of Jesse Burkett that is constructed from parts of two different cards and it is slabbed, but the label reads "altered." I guess the graders have to assess these on a card by card basis.

Shoeless Moe · #9 09-17-2010, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by scooter729

Why couldn't I get just an "A" for the card, just so I can have it protected in the slab? If they grade trimmed and otherwise altered cards, why not this? PSA and SGC both rejected this and said they wouldn't grade it.

Does Coaches Corner encapsulate cards? Maybe try there ; )

scooter729 · #10 09-17-2010, 12:09 PM

The October auction could feature the signed OJ Ward! "Lee's great-grandfather got this signed outside the Polo Grounds himself! Valued at well into the thousands, we'll start it for $20!"

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