What's the difference??

scooter729 · #1 09-17-2010, 11:02 AM

The "A" grade has been used very subjectively, and in some cases, not at all. Not to derail, but it has always confused me why I couldn't even get an "A" grade for this OJ. If you look closely, someone very carefully cut out the "NY Giants" reference (just on the front, not cut through to the back) and glued on "Brooklyn" from another card. I have to imagine this was done in 1890, when he was with Brooklyn, since he went back to the Giants after that.

Why couldn't I get just an "A" for the card, just so I can have it protected in the slab? If they grade trimmed and otherwise altered cards, why not this? PSA and SGC both rejected this and said they wouldn't grade it.

barrysloate · #2 09-17-2010, 11:07 AM

That's a tricky one Scott. That is technically two different cards glued together. I could see it creating a problem with authentication.

Matthew H · #3 09-17-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by barrysloate

That's a tricky one Scott. That is technically two different cards glued together. I could see it creating a problem with authentication.

Isn't the "restored" T206 Wagner technically two different cards glued together?

barrysloate · #4 09-17-2010, 01:39 PM

I don't know what was done to that Wagner. I assumed the restoration had to do with inpainting. I will say that I don't think there is a consistent policy when it comes to encapsulating these unusual cards. There's a Just So of Jesse Burkett that is constructed from parts of two different cards and it is slabbed, but the label reads "altered." I guess the graders have to assess these on a card by card basis.

JamesGallo · #5 09-18-2010, 12:48 AM

You can always try beckett and doesn't PSA now offer some type of slab your kids card service thing. I would call or talk to them at a show and just say you want the thing in a slab for protection. Then again god know what type of slab they would put it in, so just leave it in a screw down :-)

James G

terjung · #6 09-18-2010, 01:30 AM

I too have a card that is in an "A" holder that could be upgraded numerically if I wore down the bottom, left corner on the sidewalk. Would I rather it be in an SGC 10 holder? Sure, but am I going to intentionally damage it further so that it can meet that technical grade? Not a chance. I suspect there are quite a few cards out there that would fall into that category (cut in some way - other than trimming to attempt to make a card look more "mint").

chaddurbin · #7 09-18-2010, 02:19 AM

first time i've heard damaging the card more to get it in a better holder.

there's no difference between the above 2 cards...they're both definitive A's.

E93 · #8 09-20-2010, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by terjung

I too have a card that is in an "A" holder that could be upgraded numerically if I wore down the bottom, left corner on the sidewalk. Would I rather it be in an SGC 10 holder? Sure, but am I going to intentionally damage it further so that it can meet that technical grade? Not a chance. I suspect there are quite a few cards out there that would fall into that category (cut in some way - other than trimming to attempt to make a card look more "mint").

I agree. I would never intentionally damage a card to get a technical grade. And I doubt it would increase the value anyway if that is the objective. With a card like that Young, it is what it is regardless of what the label on the slab says.
JimB

Shoeless Moe · #9 09-17-2010, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by scooter729

Why couldn't I get just an "A" for the card, just so I can have it protected in the slab? If they grade trimmed and otherwise altered cards, why not this? PSA and SGC both rejected this and said they wouldn't grade it.

Does Coaches Corner encapsulate cards? Maybe try there ; )

scooter729 · #10 09-17-2010, 12:09 PM

The October auction could feature the signed OJ Ward! "Lee's great-grandfather got this signed outside the Polo Grounds himself! Valued at well into the thousands, we'll start it for $20!"

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