Revisiting the T206 Wagner "strip"

Rob D. · #1 08-19-2010, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Hobby veterans often disagree on any number of issues, but this seems to be a very odd one not to have a consensus. Either it's a continuous strip or the cards are pasted on; wouldn't everybody who looked at it closely agree on one or the other? I don't get this one.

The fact that Ted and his panel of experts examined it while it is slabbed is a factor. I think in one of the previous threads about the strip, a former owner, who obviously handled and examined it unslabbed, said that the cards are a continuous strip and not individual ones pasted together.

I would search for the exact post if I thought it would make a difference.

tedzan · #2 08-19-2010, 03:59 PM

Jim B

1st....The color differences of the Bowerman and CYoung with respect to the other 3 cards on this strip totally contradicts the 6-color
process that American Litho. used to print their standard production T206's. Therefore, I have to question your observation......
"I think they just cut a strip off of a sheet in the place that included Wagner's own image."

2nd....We haven't discussed the back of this strip. The back is simply a strip of thin white cardboard that appears to have been pieced
together. And, not the type of cardboard backing typical of T206 cards.

Finally....Jim, how do you account for the vertical lines between each card ?
They are not printed lines.

Regards,
TED Z

Peter_Spaeth · #3 08-19-2010, 04:17 PM

Do we know who owns it?

Jim VB · #4 08-19-2010, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Do we know who owns it?

Isn't it owned by the same guy that owns the PSA 8 Wagner, the Diamondbacks owner?

Peter_Spaeth · #5 08-19-2010, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim VB

Isn't it owned by the same guy that owns the PSA 8 Wagner, the Diamondbacks owner?

Oh man if so I hope he is not 0/2.

iggyman · #6 08-19-2010, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Oh man if so I hope he is not 0/2.

Peter,

Both the T206 "Gretzky" Wagner and the T206 Wagner strip card are part of the ~~hobby~~ industry folklore. Thus, without definite proof (which we will never get), the debate over whether "the" Wagner card was/is trimmed or whether the strip is not really a strip, only serves to enhance the value. So we can debate this until we are blue in the face, meanwhile the current owner will laugh all the way to the bank.

Lovely Day...

Peter_Spaeth · #7 08-19-2010, 10:03 PM

I am still puzzled how Jim's view was so different from Ted's (and others). The issues at least some don't really seem to be subjective ones.

E93 · #8 08-19-2010, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan

Jim B

1st....The color differences of the Bowerman and CYoung with respect to the other 3 cards on this strip totally contradicts the 6-color
process that American Litho. used to print their standard production T206's. Therefore, I have to question your observation......
"I think they just cut a strip off of a sheet in the place that included Wagner's own image."

2nd....We haven't discussed the back of this strip. The back is simply a strip of thin white cardboard that appears to have been pieced
together. And, not the type of cardboard backing typical of T206 cards.

Finally....Jim, how do you account for the vertical lines between each card ?
They are not printed lines.

Regards,
TED Z

1. I do not understand why ALC could not have printed a sheet that looked like that.

2. The back did not look pieced together to me. It looked like one piece. And under a loupe it looked just like any other T206 cardboard (without the ad printed on it).

3. I think they simply printed lines between cards on this particular pre-production test run.

JimB

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