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Old 08-12-2010, 03:00 PM
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Default Jim R.

Thanks for these 2 new inputs. Chappelle and Ganzel have been added to the list.

We are up to 250 confirmed POLAR BEAR cards.


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Old 08-12-2010, 04:10 PM
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Hi Ted,

The year before last I put together what I believed (and still believe) to be a complete T206 Polar Bear back subset.

I believe that there are 250 cards in this subset.

However, I do not believe Howell (Portrait) should be on the confirmed list.

I think someone confused it with Howell (Standing).

In fact, on your other thread (Unconfirmed POLAR BEAR cards vs 1910 COUPON cards), you list Howell (Portrait) as a probable No-Print.

And I've searched under most every stone for three years and have not found a Howell (Portrait) with a Polar Bear back.

So this would reduce your list to 249 confirmed with Polar Bear backs.....

But there do exist 250 with Polar Bear backs.....

Should I reveal the 250th?????

Ok.....

It is Doc Crandall (with Cap)!!!!!

If anyone can confirm any additional T206's with Polar Bear backs, I would love to know!

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Old 08-12-2010, 06:44 PM
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Default Craig W.

You are (W)right....you will not find Howell (Portrait) with a Polar Bear back. I have sratched this card from the list.

And, I have added Crandall.

Thanks for this new input.


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Old 08-17-2010, 09:01 AM
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Default FYI....T206 POLAR BEAR confirmed list

OK....I'm reprising this this thread in hopes of finding a few more POLAR BEAR cards.

Posted here is the list of the 69 subjects that I would identify as POLAR BEAR No-Prints. So, check-out
this list, and see if you have any of these cards with a POLAR BEAR back ?


Abstein
Arndt
Becker
Bender (trees)
Geo. Brown (Washington)
Burns
Butler
Byrne
Campbell
Cassidy
Charles
Collins (A's)
Cree
Cross
Dahlen (Brooklyn)
Demmitt (NY American)
Dineen
Donovan (throwing)
Doolan (fielding)
Downs

Dubuc
Dunn (Baltimore)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Elberfeld (portrait-Washington)
Fiene (throw)
Fletcher
Hall
Hannifan
Hartsel
Hoffman (St Louis)
Howell (portrait)
Huggins (portrait)
Huggins (hands/mouth)
Hunter
Killian (portrait)
Knabe
Lennox
Lundgren (KC)
Malarkey
Marquard (portrait)

Marshall
McAleese
McBride
McCormick
McElveen
McGinley
McIntyre (Detroit)
Mitchell (Cinci)
Mitchell (Toronto)
Moran (Providence)
Mowrey
Myers (bat)
Myers (fielding
Oberlin
O'Hara (NY Nat'l)
Paskert
Phelan
Poland
Rhoades (hands/chest)
Rossman

Schmidt (portrait)
Starr
Stephens
Street (portrait)
Summers
Sweeney (Boston)
Thomas
Wilson
Zimmerman


Thanks folks, for your time and effort.


TED Z

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Old 06-28-2011, 02:41 PM
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Default FYI....T206 POLAR BEAR confirmed list

The St Louis variations of Demmitt and O'Hara were printed ONLY with the POLAR BEAR back.
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To date, there are 250 confirmed T206 subjects with the POLAR BEAR (PB) back.

There is a good probability that this list completes the PB run. But, with the T206 "Monster" you can never be sure. Please check-out
the prior post (#29) which lists the cards that have NOT yet been found with the PB back.

One more useful tidbit of information for you T206 specialists....all 103 subjects that comprise the 350/460 and 460-only series....and,
the six Super-Prints (109 total) have been confirmed with the PB back.

Abbaticchio (blue sleeves)
Abbott
Adkins
Ames (hands over head)
Anderson
Arellanes
Armbruster
Atz
Baker
Ball (Cleveland)
Barbeau
Barger
Barry (A's)
Barry (Milwaukee)
Batch
Beck
Beckley
Bell (pitching)
Bender (no trees)
Bergen (catching)

Berger
Bescher (portrait)
Bescher (arms in air)
Blackburne
Bliss
Bradley (bat)
Brain
Brashear
Bresnahan (bat)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Burch (fielding)
Burchell
Burke
Bush
Camnitz (arm at side)
Camnitz (hands over head)
Carr
Carrigan
Casey

Chance (portrait-yellow)
Chance (bat)
Chappelle
Chase (portrait-blue)
Chase (dark cap)
Chase (trophy)
Clancy
Clark
Clymer
Cobb (portrait-red)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Collins (Milwaukee)
Congalton
Conroy (bat)
Crandall (cap)
Cravath
Crawford (bat)
Harry Davis (A's)
Davidson
Delehanty (Louisville)

Demmitt (St Louis American)
Dessau
Devore
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dorner
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (fielding)
Downey (bat)
Joe Doyle (hands over head)
Larry Doyle (portrait)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Duffy
Dygert
Easterly
Egan
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Engle
Evans
Evers (bat-yellow sky)

Ferguson
Fiene (portrait)
Flanagan
Ford
Frill
Freeman
Fromme
Gandil
Ganzel
Gasper
Geyer
Graham (Boston)
Graham (St Louis)
Gray
Griffith (bat)
Grimshaw
Groom
Hallman
Hayden
Herzog (Boston)

Hinchman (Toledo)
Hoblitzell
Hoffman (Providence)
Hofman
Howard (Chicago)
Howell (hand at waist)
Hulswitt
Hummel
Jackson
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (two hands)
Johnson (pitching)
Jones (Detroit)
Jordan (bat)
Joss (pitching)
Kelley
Kisinger
Kleinow (New York-catching)
Kleinow (Boston-catching)
Knight (portrait)

Knight (bat)
Konetchy (glove low)
Krause (portrait)
Krause (pitching)
Kroh
Kruger
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (St Louis-ball)
Lake (St Louis-no ball)
LaPorte
Latham
Lattimore
Lavender
Livingstone
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Lord
Maddox
Magee (bat)
Maloney

Manning (pitching)
Marquard (follow thru)
Mathewson (dark cap)
Mattern
McGann
McGinnity
McGlynn
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
McLean
McQuillan (bat)
Merkle (throwing)
Merritt
Meyers
Milan
Milligan
Miller (Pittsburg)
Moeller
Moran (Chicago)

Moriarty
Mullen (portrait)
Mullin (bat)
Murphy (bat)
Murray (portrait)
Murray (bat)
Nattress
Needham
Nichols (bat)
Oakes
O'Brien
O'Hara (St Louis Nat'l)
Oldring (bat)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
O'Neill
Overall (yellow sky)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne
Pelty (vertical)
Perring

Pfeffer
Pfeister (seated)
Pfeister (throwing)
Phelps
Phillippe
Pickering
Purtell
Puttman
Quillen
Quinn
Randall
Raymond
Reulbach (no glove)
Rhoades (arm extended)
Rhodes
Ritter
Rucker (throwing)
Rudolph
Schaefer (Washington)
Schirm

Schlafly
Schei (bat)
Schlei (portrait)
Schreck
Schulte (back view)
Scott
Seymour (portrait)
Seymour (throwing)
Shannon
Sharpe
Shaw (Providence)
Sheckard (glove)
Slagle
Smith (Chicago, white cap)
Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Smith (Brooklyn)
Smith (Buffalo)
Snodgrass (bat)
Snodgrass (catching)
Speaker

Stahl (glove)
Stanage
Steinfeldt (bat)
Stovall (bat)
Strang
Street (catching)
Sweeney (New York)
J. Tannehill (Washington)
Tannehill (follow thru)
Taylor
Theilman
Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Tinker (bat off shoulder)
Titus
Unglab
Wagner (bat-right shoulder)
Warhop
Wheat
Doc White (Chicago-pitching)
White (Buffalo)

Wilhelm (bat)
Willett
Willetts
Willis (throwing)
Willis (bat)
Wright
Wiltse (portrait-cap)
Wiltse (pitching)
CYoung (glove)
Irv Young

Our Net54 POLAR BEAR expert, Craig Wright, agrees that this list of 250 cards should represent a complete run of POLAR BEAR cards.


Thanks,

TED Z

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Old 06-28-2011, 03:05 PM
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Hey Ted,

I owe you an email.

That list looks good to me. Thank you for your perseverance.


Eventually, what would be good, is not only lists of confirmed backs, but a master list by fronts of the possible backs.

FW
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Default 350/460 Series backs......

A picture is worth 1000 words....so, illustrated here are all 22 tobacco brands that were printed on the T206 Subjects in the 350/460 Series............


460-type backs

.................................................. ................................ Factory #42 ovpt. ...................... Factory #42

.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ....................... Factory #25


.......................... Factory #42 ........................




350-type backs







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