NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-09-2010, 06:30 PM
Baseball Rarities's Avatar
Baseball Rarities Baseball Rarities is offline
K3v1n Stru55
member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: California
Posts: 1,237
Default Hard to go by pop numbers...

You cannot go by grading company's population reports - four of the best Wagners in the hobby have not even been graded.


I also think that 50 to 75 is a pretty good guestimate.

Last edited by Baseball Rarities; 07-09-2010 at 06:34 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-09-2010, 06:52 PM
FrankWakefield FrankWakefield is offline
Frank Wakefield
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Franklin KY
Posts: 2,820
Default

I've seen a Wagner in a collection that has been there for 50 years... the Lifson's of the hobby know not of its existence, I doubt that Lifson was keeping up with card in 1960. Maybe they accounted for it in their guesstimations. I doubt it. I agree we'll never know. And I think my 'guess' is closer to reality that 50 to 75.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-09-2010, 07:14 PM
E93's Avatar
E93 E93 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 2,202
Default

Back in the '60's, there were only a handful of them in the hobby (less than 10), according to period publications. Those that followed closely could keep a reasonably good count as new examples were discovered. Of course some may not have been big public announcements, but I imagine the Rob Lifsons, Bill Mastros, and the elder hobby statesmen that they were close with had pretty good knowledge and a reasonably accurate running tally. It is just like it is reliable hobby knowledge that the total number of Cobb backs in the hobby has gone from 6 to 14 in the last fifteen years, thanks primarily to a major find of 5 in 1997.
JimB
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-09-2010, 07:24 PM
Peter_Spaeth's Avatar
Peter_Spaeth Peter_Spaeth is offline
Peter Spaeth
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 33,696
Default

My understanding is that the 50-75 figure does not represent only the known Wagners -- after all it is an estimate -- but rather is an extrapolation based on the known ones. So it probably accounts for ones like Frank's example.
__________________
Net 54-- the discussion board where people resent discussions.

My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at
https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-09-2010, 08:19 PM
Baseball Rarities's Avatar
Baseball Rarities Baseball Rarities is offline
K3v1n Stru55
member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: California
Posts: 1,237
Default

Peter.

That is my understanding as well.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth View Post
My understanding is that the 50-75 figure does not represent only the known Wagners -- after all it is an estimate -- but rather is an extrapolation based on the known ones. So it probably accounts for ones like Frank's example.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-09-2010, 08:41 PM
fkw's Avatar
fkw fkw is offline
Frank Kealoha Ward
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Kea'au HI
Posts: 1,149
Default

Best 10 for eye appeal, out of the 28 different I have scans of.

(#1 is the PSA-8 chopped example, #3 is a PSA-5, #4 is a SGC-40, #5 is a Fritsch owned one, #6 is a PSA-2, #7 is a SGC-40, #8 is/was a GAI 3.5, #9 is restored)



etc. etc.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-09-2010, 08:45 PM
ullmandds's Avatar
ullmandds ullmandds is online now
pete ullman
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: saint paul, mn
Posts: 11,501
Default

Unless the baseball HOF has a "new" wagner...I remember theirs being a g maybe...definitely nowhere near nmt?
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
F/S: My T206 Collection HOFers and Rare Backs Included wilsonic89 Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T 9 06-17-2010 10:27 AM
*For Sale* SGC graded - T200, T205, T206, T210 and others Archive Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T 1 10-04-2006 06:25 AM
PSA GRADED 1,2, & 3's 60 T206's NEW SALE PRICES Archive Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T 1 09-27-2006 04:16 PM
graded T206 HOF'ers for sale Archive Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T 5 05-07-2006 01:42 PM
Help Needed Researching Counterfeit T206 Honus Wagners Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 3 12-15-2004 11:43 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:28 AM.


ebay GSB