FYI....T206 SOVEREIGN set confirmed lists

[sreader3]

Ted,

By way of clarification, Jennings (Portrait) is available with Sovereign 350, correct? In other words, Jennings (Portrait) is the lone SOVEREIGN 350-ONLY subject in the 150/350 subject group.

Scot

[cfc1909]

Steinfeldt is portrait also

[tedzan]

Jennings (portrait) is certainly available with a SOVEREIGN 350 back.

Now, is he is the lone "350-only" subject in the 150/350 series in this set.

Well, I'm not sure, as I've had a hard time finding Wiltse (portrait-no cap) with a SOVEREIGN 150 back.


Best regards,

TED Z

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by sreader3

Ted,

By way of clarification, Jennings (Portrait) is available with Sovereign 350, correct? In other words, Jennings (Portrait) is the lone SOVEREIGN 350-ONLY subject in the 150/350 subject group.

Scot

My reply to Scot a year ago......

" Now, is he is the lone 350-only subject in the 150/350 series in this set ? "

" Well, I'm not sure, as I've had a hard time finding Wiltse (portrait-no cap) with a SOVEREIGN 150 back. "


Scot

After 4 years of searching, I finally acquired Wiltse with a SOVEREIGN 150 back. Therefore, all 151 cards in the 1st series of my set have the SOVEREIGN 150 backs.

And, a big thanks to Rob A. (caramelcard)....who recently provided me this Wiltse card.








POSTSCRIPT ...... If you are willing to be a really patient dude regarding "The Monster" ...... the T206's you expect to find will eventually arrive.


TED Z

[tedzan]

This is the 3rd of 15 threads that will provide the most up to date lists of the confirmed cards with the various T206 backs.

OK folks....here is a major T206 sub-set consisting of 402 different cards that you can COMPLETE. It is quite affordable, and
all 402 cards are not too tough to find.

There are 122 subjects (from a full 524-card T206 set) that were not printed for the SOVEREIGN set. These NO-PRINTS are
identified in their respective series breakdown as follows.


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150 SERIES......consists of 150 cards with the "150 Subjects" back......the NO-PRINTS are:

Crawford (throwing) ...... Note: this Crawford is found with a SOVEREIGN 350 back only.
Jennings (portrait) ........ Note: this Jennings is found with a SOVEREIGN 350 back only.
Lundgren (Cubs)
Magie
Plank
Honus Wagner


350 SERIES......consists of 204 cards......the NO-PRINTS are:

Abstein
Adkins
Arrellanes
Barbeau
Barger
Becker
Bliss
Brashear
Bresnahan (bat)
Burchell
Charles
Clark
Clymer
Collins (Minn.)
Cross
Davidson
Delehanty (Louisville)
Demmitt (New York American)
Dessau
Dorner

Downey (fielding)
J. Doyle (N.Y. Nat'L)
Elberfeld (portrait-Washington)
Engle
Evans
Fletcher
Freeman
Ganzel
Graham (St Louis AL)
Gray
Groom
Hayden
Hoffman (St Louis AL)
Hunter
Jones (portrait Detroit)
La Porte
Lattimore
Lord
Lundgren (Kansas City)
Maddox

Maloney
Marshall
Mattern
McAleese
McBride
McElveen
McLean
Milan
Miller (Pittsburg)
Mullen (portrait)
Murray (bat)
Myers (bat)
Nattress
Phillippe
Puttman
Rhodes
Ritter
Rudolph
Schirm
Schlafly

Schreck
Shannon
Sharpe
Snodgrass (bat)
Starr
Willett


460 SERIES......consists of 46 cards......the NO-PRINTS are:

Kleinow (Boston)
Smith (Chicago & Boston)


The 48 Southern Leaguers are NO-PRINTS.

And, the St. Louis variations are NO-PRINTS......

Demmitt (St Louis American)
O'Hara (St Louis Nat'l)


Furthermore, the 6 super prints were also printed with the SOVEREIGN 460 back. A set that includes these cards is complete
with 408 cards. NOTE....these 6 super-prints with the SOVEREIGN 460 back are very difficult to find (relative to all the other
SOVEREIGN cards).


Shown here, are the color variations of certain cards with SOVEREIGN 350 backs. The next post here will explore this color
difference. And, identify the 66 cards that were printed with these "apple green" colored backs.
.....
..............apple green backs

...............normal green back



Two updates........

The 350 SERIES list has been updated to reflect my inadvertent omission of Downey (fielding) being a SOVEREIGN 350 series NO-PRINT.


The 150 SERIES list has been updated to reflect Art Martineau's input regarding the Crawford (throwing) being a NO-PRINT with a SOVEREIGN 150 back.


TED Z

[tedzan]

Unlike the PIEDMONT print runs of the subjects in the 150/350 Series which essentially all were printed with both 150
and 350 backs, the SOVEREIGN print runs omitted the 350 back on a fair number of subjects in the 150/350 Series.

It is more convenient here to list the "NO-PRINTS". To date, there is a total of 66 "NO-PRINTS".

This list of 12 cards in the 150/350 Series are definite SOVEREIGN 350 NO-PRINTS ..........

Lundgren (Cubs)

and,

the "Elite Eleven" ..........

Dahlen (Boston)
Ewing
Ganley
T. Jones (St Louis)
Karger
Lindaman
Mullin (horizontal)
Schaefer (Detroit)
Schulte (front view)
Shaw (St Louis)
Spencer


And, listed here are 58 (or 57) subjects in the 150/350 Series which appear to be SOVEREIGN 350 "NO-PRINTS"......

Ball (New York)
Bates
Beaumont
Bergen (bat)
Bowerman
Bradley (portrait)
Bransfield
Chance (red portrait) ................ ?
Chase (pink portrait)
Chase (white cap)
Chesbro
F. Clarke (portrait)
JJ Clarke
Cobb (green portrait)
Conroy (fielding)
Covaleski
Crandall (no cap)
George Davis (Chicago AL)
H. Davis
Delehanty (Washington)

Doolin
Durham
Evers (portrait)
Gibson
Gilbert
Hahn
Hemphill
Herzog (New York)
Hinchman (Cleveland)
Tim Jordan (portrait)
Keeler (portrait)
Killian (pitching)
Konetchy (glove high)
Lajoie (throwing)
Lake (New York)
Leach (portrait)
Lobert
Lumley
Magee (portrait)
Marquard (hands at thighs)

Mathewson (white cap)
McIntyre (Brooklyn)
McQuillan (ball in hand)
Overall (portrait)
Owen
Pastorius
Powell
Ritchey
Rucker (portrait)
Schlei (catching)
Schmidt (throwing)
Spade
Steinfeldt (portrait)
L Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (portrait)
Wagner (bat/left shoulder)
Wilhelm (hands/chest)
Williams


Note
The red Chance is unknown....if anyone on this forum has this card with a SOVEREIGN 350 back, please chime in.

Also, any new inputs will be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.

TED Z
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[tedzan]

Here's a connection in the 150/350 series between EPDG and the SOVEREIGN 350 no-prints that may interest you T206 buffs.

The above listed subjects (Post #15) in the 150/350 Series that are SOVEREIGN 350 no-prints are confirmed EPDG cards (exceptions are notated).

SOVEREIGN 350 no-prints......EPDG

Ball (New York)
Bates
Beaumont
Bergen (bat)
Bowerman
Bradley (portrait)
Bransfield ...............................NOT YET
Chance (red portrait)
Chase (pink portrait)
Chase (white cap)
Chesbro
F. Clarke (portrait)
JJ Clarke
Cobb (green portrait) ................NOT YET
Conroy (fielding) ......................NOT YET
Covaleski
Crandall (no cap)
Dahlen (Boston)
H. Davis
Delehanty (Washington)

Doolin
Durham
Evers (portrait)
Ewing
Ganley
Gibson
Gilbert
Hahn ......................................NOT YET
Hemphill
Herzog (New York)
Hinchman (Cleveland)
Tom Jones (St Louis)
Karger
Keeler (portrait)
Killian (pitching)
Lajoie (throwing)
Lake (New York) ......................NOT YET
Lindaman
Lobert
Lumley

Lundgren (Cubs)
Magee (portrait)
Marquard (hands at thighs)
Mathewson (white cap)
McIntyre (Brooklyn) ..................NOT YET
McQuillan (ball in hand)
Mullin (throwing)
Overall (portrait)
Owen
Pastorius
Powell
Ritchey
Rucker (portrait)
Schaefer
Schlei (catching)
Schmidt (throwing) ..................NOT YET
Schulte (front view) .................NOT YET
Shaw (St Louis)
Spade
Spencer
Steinfeldt (portrait)

L Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (portrait)
Wagner (bat/left shoulder)
Wilhelm (hands/chest)
Williams ..................................NOT YET



I think 8 of the 9 guys listed here NOT YET confirmed with EPDG's will eventually be found.

However, I have very little confidence that the Schulte card will ever be discovered with an EPDG back.


Your inputs regarding this survey are very appreciated.



TED Z
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[tedzan]

Here is my list of the 150/350 series SOVEREIGN 350 prints (68 cards)......

Abbaticchio (brown sleeves)
Ames (portrait)
Bender (portrait)
Bell (arms over head)
Birmingham
Bresnahan (portrait)
Bridwell (portrait-no cap)
M. Brown (portrait)
Camnitz (arms folded)
Cicotte
Clarke (batting)
Cobb (bat on shoulder)
Crawford (throwing)
Criger
Criss
Devlin
Donohue
Donlin (seated)
Dooin
Dougherty (portrait)

Elberfeld (New York)
Ferris
Flick
Griffith (portrait)
Isbell
Jacklitsch
Jennings (portrait)
Johnson (portrait)
Jones, Fielder (portrait)
Jones, Fielder (hands at hips)
Joss (portrait)
Keeler (bat)
Kleinow (batting)
Kling
Lajoie (portrait)
Leifield (pitching)
Liebhardt
Manning (batting)
Mathewson (portrait)
McGraw (portrait-no cap)

McGraw (finger in air)
Merkle (portrait)
Murphy (throwing)
Nicholls (fielding)
Niles
Oldring (fielding)
O'Leary (portrait)
Parent
Seymour (bat)
Sheckard (no glove)
Shipke
F. Smith
Stone
Stovall (portrait)
Sullivan
Tenney
Tinker (hands on knees)
Turner
Waddell (portrait)
Waddell (throwing)

Wallace
Walsh
Weimer
Doc White (portrait)
Willis (portrait)
Wiltse (portrait-no cap)
CYoung (portrait)
CYoung (bare hand)


TED Z
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