T206 Southern Leaguers and Joe Jackson Redux

[cfc1909]

this is great-thank you so much for your research-now we need to figure out why the 14 were not printed in the first run.


there has been much progress on this set in the last few years-thanks to all for your efforts.

[D. Broughman]

Tim you have Roy Ellam listed with Birmingham and Connellsville but his card has Nashville on it. Any ideas about this player. D.

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by D. Broughman

Tim you have Roy Ellam listed with Birmingham and Connellsville but his card has Nashville on it. Any ideas about this player. D.

I'm glad you caught that. His team designation is an error in the T206 set. He played for Birmingham in 1909. He did eventually make it to Nashville in 1916.

All Southern Association teams have at least two representatives in the set if you list Ellam with Birmingham.

[Abravefan11]

I'm sorry if it's a little hard to see but in the layout below the 350 Only players team designations are shaded in gray. I believe this helps give perspective to how the 350 Only players were part of the whole picture from the beginning. It's especially evident in the VSL group.

[Brian Weisner]

Hi Tim,
Great research.....

Be well Brian


PS How do the 8 SL proofs that were auctioned off to Keith several years ago fit into your pattern??? It seems as though they may have planned on more SLers at one time....

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by Brian Weisner

How do the 8 SL proofs that were auctioned off to Keith several years ago fit into your pattern??? It seems as though they may have planned on more SLers at one time....

I haven't included the 8 proofs to this point because ATC didn't included them in the actual production.

Several of the eight played for a different team in 1908 (Fleet Mayberry didn't play anywhere) and all played for the team they represent on the proof at the beginning of 1909. Tim Dwyer moves from Jacksonville to Columbia in the same transaction that sent Manion to Jacksonville in early July. So these eight appear to follow the same timeline I proposed for the other 48.





If I were to try and fit the eight proofs into the existing set it would throw off the balance of the team distributions except in the case of the two Chattanooga players. Chattanooga is the only team from the South Atlantic League without a representative.

Adding 3 Jacksonville players, 2 Montgomery players, and 1 Danville player seems to upset the weight of each league teams representation to me.

Also the number 48 fits the 12 card sheet theory. There were only 34 cards in the original printing but as I've said before I don't think that was the original plan.

[D. Broughman]

Thanks for for the followup and answering my question. Just shows how much research you have put into this set. Thanks! D.