Let the experiment begin...

[barrysloate]

The market will determine exactly how certain everybody is that it's Jackson.

[mark evans]

My hope is that another half-dozen or so show up on eBay in the near future as other sellers look to take advantage of this discovery.

[brett]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

the market will determine exactly how certain everybody is that it's jackson.

exactly!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Brett your audience on ebay is not limited to this group, you might want to make your listing more persuasive.

[Leon]

I had about a 45 minute phone conversation with Brett this morning about the description. While I mostly agree with Corey in the above post there is another relevent fact here. Arguably the foremost expert of Joe Jackson, in the whole hobby, Mike Nola, has deemed this 100% Joe Jackson, case closed. That is very powerful in my opinion. Am I now 100% sure it's him, no, but I am more than 95% as opposed to my previous view. I would have still liked to see the wording be different but I do see the point given all of the info we now have.

Also, after speaking with Brett for a long time on the phone, I feel 100% certain this was not a money move. I don't know Brett's financial resources but it would be akin to me going through all of this to make an extra $200. If anyone thinks I would do that then they don't know me. I am very much in Brett's corner. I feel he is a positive addition to the board and the hobby. My only question is how will he out do his first thread? regards

[JasonL]

what else did you guys talk about!?

Brett, I'll give you $50 for it!
good luck with the sale. I think this will be a fun one to watch.

[glchen]

Sorry, Brett. Even with the above post from Leon, I have to say I'm another poster that's lost some respect for you. Again, that was a brilliant first post, but now the luster has lost some of its shine. The reason is "conflict of interest." This is similar to a politican writing laws on Energy policy, who just so happens to own tons of shares of Exxon Mobil. The politician needs to recuse himself from the vote or move his shares to a blind trust, so that he could seem impartial. If you have put in that first post, along with the theory that you thought that card was Joe Jackson, that you had an extra card that you'd probably be willing to sell, and had that upfront, you would've looked a lot better than you do now. Or, if you put the card on ebay, but tried to stay anonymous about it, and only return pm'd those people who contacted you, and not announce that you're selling to the entire board, you would have looked somewhat better.

[milkit1]

I see nothing wrong with Brett selling that card. However I can't wait for this to die down. Without the card actually saying tht its Joe Jackson I don't feel its anymore important than it ever was.

[brett]

Originally Posted by glchen

Sorry, Brett. Even with the above post from Leon, I have to say I'm another poster that's lost some respect for you. Again, that was a brilliant first post, but now the luster has lost some of its shine. The reason is "conflict of interest." This is similar to a politican writing laws on Energy policy, who just so happens to own tons of shares of Exxon Mobil. The politician needs to recuse himself from the vote or move his shares to a blind trust, so that he could seem impartial. If you have put in that first post, along with the theory that you thought that card was Joe Jackson, that you had an extra card that you'd probably be willing to sell, and had that upfront, you would've looked a lot better than you do now. Or, if you put the card on ebay, but tried to stay anonymous about it, and only return pm'd those people who contacted you, and not announce that you're selling to the entire board, you would have looked somewhat better.

That's your opinion, and while it's always nice to be respected I can live without yours if that's how you feel. There's no conflict because it's two completely seperate things. Unlike a politician passing a policy that society has no choice but to live by, you still have all the choice in the world in regards to this. You can choose 1) That it's NOT Shoeless Joe if that's what you want to believe, and 2) That you don't want to bid on the card. Nobody's forcing you to do either. If I was the SOLE authority on declaring this a Shoeless Joe card and then started selling them that would be a different story. I disclosed that I had another one AS SOON as I realized it (not that it matters or is any of your business) and when I mentioned here that I was selling it I knew people like you would take exception (there's always gonna be haters), but I still did it to be as honest and upfront as possible. Sometimes in life you just can't win.

Also, even if I DID start this topic for the purpose of making a profit (which I didn't) what difference does it make? How has the luster lost it's shine? A fact is still a fact. Just because I'm selling one did we suddenly NOT still discover a new Shoeless Joe card? Did you not still gain free knowledge here thanks to me? In 100 years when we're all dead and gone will future generations not still know about a Shoeless Joe Jackson card because we proved it here last week? Your logic makes no sense whatsoever. The discovery is the discovery. What I choose to do after that is my business, not yours. In fact, if anybody should be entitled to be the first one to put this card on the market it should be the person who discovered it.