List of known Red HINDU's....can you add any new ones ?

[GoldenAge50s]

Why American Litho. used RED ink to print the last series of HINDU's remains a curiosity.

It just may be something as simple as to distinguish the most common beginning T206's (1909) from the scarcer, end of the run T206's (1911)

[tedzan]

Fred Y

That's the best explanation for the Red ink printing that I've heard so far.

Best regards,

TED Z

[Abravefan11]

Ted,

Has a color comparison been done with the time line of when T206 backs were printed?

Does the Sovereign change in green coincide with an AB printing for example?

Just curious as this may have something to do with the Hindu change from brown to red as I mentioned before with them being printed the same time as the Broad Leaf 460.

[FUBAR]

it could be something simple like they ran out of brown.... because it probably really didn't matter to them, it was after all, just a card..

a different green could be simply a different batch.


I really think people are over analyzing things. Remember , the card is just a throw in to a 5 cent pack of smokes, i don't imagine they were overly critical of the exact ink color. They probably used what they had.

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by FUBAR

it could be something simple like they ran out of brown.... because it probably really didn't matter to them, it was after all, just a card..

a different green could be simply a different batch.

Jim -

I appreciate what you're saying but ALC wasn't a small print house where running out of ink would be no big deal.

Even if it didn't matter to them they were working for ATC and with such a huge customer they certainly cared about what they were doing and the why down to the correct factory designation.

Along with the Hindu red the Sovereign greens were changed for a reason, we just haven't figured out why yet.

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by Abravefan11

Jim -

I appreciate what you're saying but ALC wasn't a small print house where running out of ink would be no big deal.

Even if it didn't matter to them they were working for ATC and with such a huge customer they certainly cared about what they were doing and the why down to the correct factory designation.

Along with the Hindu red the Sovereign greens were changed for a reason, we just haven't figured out why yet.

I wonder if it's as simple as their advertising for the Hindu brand went to more reddish colors? Just a guess. As for Sovereign green, I used to work in a textile plant and a good friend of mine was the color man. Sometimes as minor a thing as a drop or two of one color in a mix being eliminated would lead to variations. It may have been as simple as a different color man doing the mixes.

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by toppcat

It may have been as simple as a different color man doing the mixes.

It could be that simple but I would think we would see color variations in other backs given the amount of cards printed and number of times ALC workers would have had to mix the inks.

However the Sovereign color change was uniform across a print run from what I understand. To many known cards to be just a mistake or variance.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by toppcat

Sometimes as minor a thing as a drop or two of one color in a mix being eliminated would lead to variations. It may have been as simple as a different color man doing the mixes.

LOL! For close to 30 years my wife has laughed at me that I lived my life as a box of Crayola 8 Crayons (What do you mean there's more than one blue?) while she, and my 16 year old daughter work off the Pantone Color Chart, with infinite choices.

I still do NOT understand how we can be ready to paint a room, she can look at the yellow paint, and say "That's got too much red in it!"