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Old 04-21-2010, 11:01 AM
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Do you feel the Gretzky party knew the card was sheet cut? Was that fairly common knowlege prior to the 2.8 million bid it realized? If the answer to both of these is "yes", then the market has deemed this type of alteration to be "market acceptable". However, I dont think it will ever be "market acceptable" to re-back a card....especially a card that may not have ever been printed in the first place!

So Jim...if it were your Cobb/RH, would you take all steps needed to validate/dismiss its authenticity? Or would you take the "head buried in the sand" approach?
Gretzky (and former LA Kings owner Bruce McNall) bought the card for around $450,000. If you note, the serial number on the card, it was pretty early in the infancy of PSA. They knew that grading this card would be great publicity. They were correct. It changed hands several times, at least 4-5 since Gretzky, maybe more. It went up in price each time. It is currently owned by the owner of the Diamondbacks. He doesn't seem to care that it may be trimmed. Interestingly, he also owns the companion Plank. That one is graded "A."

It's not market acceptable and never will be. But you don't need a wide market to sell that card. Just one buyer with deep pockets. I have no doubt it will continue to increase in value.
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There are parts that will make you wonder why we all do this.
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http://www.amazon.com/Card-Collector...1869352&sr=1-1


There are parts that will make you wonder why we all do this.
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I know why I do it.

I'm a dumb ass collector that loves it.

I even went to your State of Texas for the 1990 National.

And being that we're talking about creative art.

My sole mission:

It was an attempt to warn the dealers about a guy named Danny Dupchek, AKA Dr Koos. ... he specialized in cards.

Macrae, and I looked for some of you boys, but I guess it was before you guys got into it.

What a waste of my money, and time, I shudda looked for cards instead.
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Interestingly, he also owns the companion Plank. That one is graded "A."
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I am pretty sure the owner of the "Authentic" Plank/Piedmont that appears nm/mt and comes from the same find as the Gretzky Wagner is not the owner of the Diamondbacks. I believe the Diamondbacks owner bought the PSA 8 Plank from Candiotti, but it originated from a different source.
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I am pretty sure the owner of the "Authentic" Plank/Piedmont that appears nm/mt and comes from the same find as the Gretzky Wagner is not the owner of the Diamondbacks. I believe the Diamondbacks owner bought the PSA 8 Plank from Candiotti, but it originated from a different source.
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Thanks Jim. I stand corrected. I knew he owned a Plank. I thought I read it somewhere, but I guess I just made the fallacious assumption, that he owned the matched set. Thanks for straightening me out.
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