A word of caution

[usernamealreadytaken]

The CC shouldn't care who/what/where other than the fact you were defrauded. Not only any supporting documents that the money was for a purchase (i.e. emails) but even in the PP message itself. (if it says "Happy Birthday!!" you are screwed) If you message "For 1914 CJ Cobb PSA 2. Please ship to:" PP would have to see the writing on the wall. Feedback?

[Abravefan11]

That's a good questions for the lawyers on the board....Jeff?

Can you legally ungift a gift?

[Chicago206]

Originally Posted by usernamealreadytaken

The CC shouldn't care who/what/where other than the fact you were defrauded. Not only any supporting documents that the money was for a purchase (i.e. emails) but even in the PP message itself. (if it says "Happy Birthday!!" you are screwed) If you message "For 1914 CJ Cobb PSA 2. Please ship to:" PP would have to see the writing on the wall. Feedback?

If thats the case, both the CC and paypal are going to ask why you didnt use standard paypal for the purchase. Paypal "gift" was not set up so that users could avoid fees, it was set up so people could send "gifts" to eachother at no expense. Its probably a poor idea on paypal's part, as I dont see how they benefit. I also suspect it will not last very long because of exactly what we are discussing here. People are very much abusing the new feature. The way I see it, the "gift" option actually helps the buyer more than the seller. You save that extra 3% by using "gift". If someone wants to use standard paypal with me, thats fine...just add 3% to the total. So you see, as a seller, I do not benefit at all, I get the exact same amount of money.

[sbfinley]

Well luckily some of the members of this board have henchmen, so if a deal goes sour. Well, you DON'T want a deal to go sour.

[Shouldabeena10]

Another thing some people don't realize when using the "gift" option ... is that the Paypal receipt doesn't show the mailing address. You need to either put it in the comment box or send it separately.

[uffda51]

No one likes a re-gifter. Who could forget Tim Whatley? And the label maker?

[lsutigers1973]

If the PP gift is funded by a CC, the same PP fees will still be charged just as if it were for a regular payment.

I have sent and received hundreds of PP gifts as payment for cards on numerous card forums and have never had an issue.

[JP]

Originally Posted by lsutigers1973

If the PP gift is funded by a CC, the same PP fees will still be charged just as if it were for a regular payment.

I have sent and received hundreds of PP gifts as payment for cards on numerous card forums and have never had an issue.

But there is a limit on the dollar amount that you can send via Paypal gift with a CC without paying a fee. In the end, the transaction I just did had to be done with eCheck so that no one would have to pay any of the $200 in fees. That is a ridiculous amount to charrge for being a middleman. I love Paypal as an option, but there should be a cap on the fee charged.

I have been down both roads with and without the use of "Gift" as an option of payment. No matter what if you pay through paypal for any transaction off EBAY you have no protection if you use anything other than a CC. If someone here on the board is a trusted member who cares if they are asking to save 3% on their end. If you pay through anything other than your paypal balance they also charge fees for the gifting. So transfer the money into there first and then pay. I do believe this same issue has been discussed many times before.

[JP]

Originally Posted by Pup6913

If you pay through anything other than your paypal balance they also charge fees for the gifting.

This is just not true...I paypal gifted $200 to Chicago206 yesterday for his Cycle 460 without incurring any fees. And my Paypal balance I keep at ZERO as often as I can. Then when I went to gift a much larger amount today from my CC they tried to charge $194 in fees. So there must be some rules in place that determine whether or not you pay a fee, and how much.

EDIT: I think that maybe Instant Transfers from a bank account are the free Paypal gifts, and once it is too high of a dollar amount, it kicks over to a credit card and charges a fee. Paypal's site is so vague about the specifics....probably to discourage fee-less end arounds. I only Paypal gift to those who I have done multiple deals with. Chicago206 bought from me several times on BST and eBay without issue, so I was not at all worried about gifting to him.

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by Chicago206

If thats the case, both the CC and paypal are going to ask why you didnt use standard paypal for the purchase. Paypal "gift" was not set up so that users could avoid fees, it was set up so people could send "gifts" to eachother at no expense. Its probably a poor idea on paypal's part, as I dont see how they benefit. I also suspect it will not last very long because of exactly what we are discussing here. People are very much abusing the new feature. The way I see it, the "gift" option actually helps the buyer more than the seller. You save that extra 3% by using "gift". If someone wants to use standard paypal with me, thats fine...just add 3% to the total. So you see, as a seller, I do not benefit at all, I get the exact same amount of money.

Paypal charges me a 1% fee to send the "gift" when I use cash from my bank account. It is my understanding that everyone who sends a gift via Paypal must pay the 1% fee, even for cash. So the choice is between 3% off the recipient's total, or 1% added to the sender's total.

And I agree with other comments that it would likely be tough to go back later and say a "gift" was not really a gift if it didn't work out for you.

Cheers,
Blair

[JP]

Sometimes Paypal doesn't charge a percentage at all to gift, but if you do it alot, the percentage pops up on ocassion and becomes higher each time, it seems. I just tried to money to a fellow board member, a larger dollar amount, and they tried to add about 2.8-2.9% to the total...