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Old 03-22-2010, 03:07 PM
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reminds me of my younger days, go out to a club and pick up an "8" maybe get a "9" if i had some luck. The occasional 10 was there, but could ever really afford one...

then the next morning, you realized she was a BCCG 8, not a PSA 8...

nowadays, you realize you only get the BVG(vintage) ones and a 4 or 5 is all you can afford

and you better hope you get a "real" one cause there is nothing worse then a fake! you thought you bought Eve, but you got Steve
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Until they lose BCCG I refuse to use Beckett.

It's sad that the people who are hurt most by this are the new people to the hobby. IMO It is deceptive and hurts the hobby.
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Old 03-22-2010, 04:58 PM
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Until they lose BCCG I refuse to use Beckett.

It's sad that the people who are hurt most by this are the new people to the hobby. IMO It is deceptive and hurts the hobby.

Scott,
My sentiments exactly. Their "system" regardless of who it is/was designed for is functioning as an enabler.

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Until they lose BCCG I refuse to use Beckett.

It's sad that the people who are hurt most by this are the new people to the hobby. IMO It is deceptive and hurts the hobby.
Beckett is an advertiser but I would hate for folks to think I say what I do just because of that. Trust me, I don't. As a matter of fact I had some discussions with them today about advertising their AUT service more and have it be more known. I think I know them fairly well and I didn't even realize that they offer the service of AUT of a card that has NO issues, the submitter just wanted to know it was not altered.

That being said if anyone can't read the words under the number, that say "Good or Better" when it is a 6, then maybe they need to do some more research before plunking money down. We could argue all day long but in the end Beckett, nor I, nor anyone, will make everyone happy. It can't happen. Heck, we had people thinking they should win their lots in my last auction because we got attacked and that attack took the system down.

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OK, so if Beckett is using BCCG for the mass markets, what is the point of this grading system? It takes just as long to grade a card as BCCG 6 good or better as it does to grade it Beckett or BVG 2. Why can Beckett grade a BCCG card for a couple of bucks but a BVG card costs more? I guess I don't get it.

In my mind BCCG = PRO. Both are equally deceptive.

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Old 03-22-2010, 05:56 PM
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OK, so if Beckett is using BCCG for the mass markets, what is the point of this grading system? It takes just as long to grade a card as BCCG 6 good or better as it does to grade it Beckett or BVG 2. Why can Beckett grade a BCCG card for a couple of bucks but a BVG card costs more? I guess I don't get it.

In my mind BCCG = PRO. Both are equally deceptive.

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Seriously Rick, you don't get it? Why don't you pose this question to every grading company? They all have different tiers (costs) and it has to do with liability, I believe, as well as the quickness of grading the submission. Also, and this is just a guess, but it probably takes more experience (paying someone with more experience) to grade the nuances of a 100 yr old card vs a 100 day old card. This is a poor analogy but why would a brain surgeon cost more than a general practitioner, on an hourly basis? Probably experience and liability. There is no doubt that every grading company has people that won't use them and Beckett is no different. Do I wish they would have used a different scale, sure I guess.....but then again I have been known to read what is on the label so I guess it just doesn't matter that much to me. It's America folks. Do what you want to....but I do trust BVG a lot with their grading. So far they have never failed me yet, though I haven't submitted as much to them as I have SGC....best regards
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It appears the buyer was unhappy with his purchase:
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Bccg may have sold a lot of cards to unsuspecting people, but how many have they driven away with this practice. If you just started collecting and were told what a great deal you were getting on these high graded cards, and then find out there crap, youre pissed and leaving the hobby. I'm sure they drew a lot of new people into the hobby but then pissed them off, and most probably won't be back. There grading stinks and they should be ashamed of themselves for it. Quite a joke.
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and you better hope you get a "real" one cause there is nothing worse then a fake! you thought you bought Eve, but you got Steve


Hey come on now!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was laughing until that line!!!!!!!!!!



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ok we will go with Michelle and Michael.... hows that? and before anyone asks, this is not from a personal experience...
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ok we will go with Michelle and Michael.... hows that? and before anyone asks, this is not from a personal experience...


That's better.


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unless you're dating a Michelle or maybe you are dating Emma Mann.... who knows!
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