BCCG Strikes Again

[barrysloate]

Leon- if BCCG was created for venues like the Home Shopping Network, why is a card like a 49 Leaf Paige even put in one of these holders in the first place? Shouldn't a scarce and very valuable card be automatically passed over to BVG?

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Leon- if BCCG was created for venues like the Home Shopping Network, why is a card like a 49 Leaf Paige even put in one of these holders in the first place? Shouldn't a scarce and very valuable card be automatically passed over to BVG?

The misdirection on the part of Beckett is the use of a totally different grading scale. The BCCG scale runs from BCCG 5 to BCCG 10. That means that a BCCG 6 IS NOT a high grade card.

So, a buyer who is not aware of this can be duped into approaching it like it's a 6 out of 10, when it clearly isn't.

So to answer Rob's question about proportioning blame:

I put 60% with the seller, who clearly cracked and resubmitted the card with the intent of raising the grade while finding a sucker to buy it.

I put 30% with Beckett for setting up a fraudulent grading system that asks for this kind of abuse.

And I put 10% with the buyer, for not asking to see a back scan, not knowing that BCCG and the seller were screwing with his bank account, and not listening to The Electic Light Orchestra when they said "A fool and his money soon go separate ways."


Editted to add: I could make an argument to raise each and every percentage listed, but Rob, being the stickler for details that he is, would want them to add up to 100%, not 180%

[teetwoohsix]

IMO-the seller is a scumbag-period.He knows what he did.He sent it to BCCG for sole purpose of deceiving someone,knowing the supposed "high" grade it would show,even though it's NOT a high grade.
I agree,the buyer needs to do their homework,but there are other scenarios-like what if your wife knew you had been dying to get this card-and bought it for you as a gift??Can you say "What did you do,you should've been studying Net54 before buying me this card"?
BCCG may make them a lot of money,but it sucks.I like BVG,but BCCG has to go.
The seller is dirty-go take a shower seller,because you stink.

[usernamealreadytaken]

Reinforcing the lesson to Buy the Card, not the grade/flip/case, etc.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by usernamealreadytaken

Reinforcing the lesson to Buy the Card, not the grade/flip/case, etc.

But in this case, you have to "buy the back of the card" as well.

[barrysloate]

Clayton is right. Once sleazy sellers realize they can buy a vintage card graded 2, and then send it to BCCG and have it magically changed to a 6 or 7, this will not happen once in a while but become an epidemic. This is a very bad policy.

[yanksfan09]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Clayton is right. Once sleazy sellers realize they can buy a vintage card graded 2, and then send it to BCCG and have it magically changed to a 6 or 7, this will not happen once in a while but become an epidemic. This is a very bad policy.

On top of that, uninformed buyers think they are getting a legit BECKETT graded card. This is a name even casual collectors know. I'm sure there are people out there who think they're better off buying a BCCG 8 than a Pro 9 (maybe a poor example there, because that's probably true, but you get the point)

[yanksfan09]

Also, one more point is that this does a disservice to the hobby as a whole. When new/young people getting into the hobby get burned by a bad deal like the Paige card or one of those 1994-1996 jeter "RCs" it turns people off to the hobby as a whole. It undermines the true grading services and leaves a bad taste in would-be collectors' mouths, keeping the hobby from growing and becoming more legitimate to the average person...

[Kawika]

What this country needs is a good government-run, single-payer third party grading service like they have in Canada.