Drum back on Ebay!

[ChiefBenderForever]

It's to bad he didn't have the magnifying glass on the scan so you can see what is up with the bend in the front. The big question is would this be Authentic in sgc or psa.

[T206DK]

I don't mind "outing" auctions here at all. My view is that there are dozens of collectors and rpobably dealers on this forum that do the same searches I do and try to find that one card that may be listed in a bizarre category. I rarely find anything decent in my searches anymore though. I once found a T200 card that was listed in a section for baby clothes.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by T206DK

I don't mind "outing" auctions here at all. My view is that there are dozens of collectors and rpobably dealers on this forum that do the same searches I do and try to find that one card that may be listed in a bizarre category. I rarely find anything decent in my searches anymore though. I once found a T200 card that was listed in a section for baby clothes.

Dave
And if you take hours to search for something and find a gem of a card in a category that is for stuffed zoo animals, and it gets posted on the main board with 3 hours left....You might have a different opinion...and then again, as I said before, maybe not. Regardless, everyone can do what makes them happy. best regards

[Anthony S.]

Every other graded card that seller has listed (including his completed auctions) is in either an SGC or a PSA holder. Buy the card because you want a T206 DRUM back, not because you hope it will cross over to anything higher than an "A."

[Matt]

Looking at the card, I don't see anything that leads me to believe it won't grade numerically. Old GAI cases aren't like CSA where it's almost assured that the card is trimmed - at the time, GAI certainly got it right more often then not (though, 'not' happened quite a bit).

Why the seller didn't cross it could be simply because he doesn't like the principal of shelling out more cash for an already graded card. Not a good business decision, but certainly understandable.

[ullmandds]

yes...that bottom definitely looks tampered with...A is the correct grade, IMO.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

yes...that bottom definitely looks tampered with...A is the correct grade, IMO.

Peter - I think what you're seeing is the black gasket of the case - it makes it seems that the bottom of the card is wavy.

[ChiefBenderForever]

Originally Posted by Anthony S.

Every other graded card that seller has listed (including his completed auctions) is in either an SGC or a PSA holder. Buy the card because you want a T206 DRUM back, not because you hope it will cross over to anything higher than an "A."

I agree but at the sametime, on a card like this no reason to overpay a couple grand if it is indeed not a 1 or 2 right ?

[E93]

I don't think the card is tampered with. I think it is the black insert and angle of the scan that makes the bottom edge look weird. Look at the same edge with the scan of the back of the card and it is more clear, imho.

It certainly was not trimmed to improve corners. Maybe it was hacked to fit into a plastic sheet back in the day, but this one does not look that way to me. I have seen a lot of scans with holders from all three grading companies that make side look suspicious when they clearly are not viewed in person.
JimB

[Chicago206]

I didnt mean to stir up a debate on "outing" an auction. That was NOT my intent. As a very new collector to this series, I just wanted some honest opinions of the card, AND why you think its in a GAI slab rather than a top tier slab. I am high bidder on the card, and plan to be very aggressive on it....so if anything, im just "hurting" myself by drawing attention to it. However, I'd rather have some spirited competition if that means getting expert opinions on it before I go bananas on the bidding. I'd much rather overpay $500-$700 on a legit card because of a few extra bidders than to save that money, and pay for a substandard card just because I didnt want to "out" it in a web forum. Make any sense?

[Matt]

It makes a lot of sense - it's exactly what I wrote in the second sentence of my initial response. In your scenario, you felt the information to be gained outweighed the potential additional cost.

[teetwoohsix]

Good luck on the card Chicago206!!Just wanted to say,I've only sent in three T206's graded by GAI for crossover to SGC,one came back same grade,the other 2 came back a grade higher,to my suprise.I may be in the minority,I don't know...........

[T206DK]

While I might be a bit mad that others find that item, I still look at it like there was a chance that someone would find it anyway whether it was talked about here or not. I realize outing something here would lower my chances of winning the items due to the amount of collectors with similar tastes on here and people just trying to find a good deal. I usually only "out" suspected sheisters I see on Ebay....I think that's good for all of us. I like reading about other auctions people find too. I personally don't buy on Ebay much anymore, but I look a lot just to see what's out there.

[tedzan]

What's the difference of Chicago206 "outing" this card....vs....Leon "outing" an ebay lot when he runs his
occasional CONTEST ?

I'll save you your rationalizations......there is NO DIFFERENCE !


Hey Leon, you are overdue to run a Contest....how's about running a Contest on this DRUM card ?


Some Net54er will win a nice St Patrick's Day gift

T-Rex TED

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by tedzan

What's the difference of Chicago206 "outing" this card....vs....Leon "outing" an ebay lot when he runs his
occasional CONTEST ?

I'll save you your rationalizations......there is NO DIFFERENCE !

I agree. Regardless of how the discussion gets started, it is a bummer finding something you really like on ebay only to find a massive discussion about the card taking place on Net54. This almost never has happened to me, but I can appreciate the feeling and try to respect that before initiating a post on here about in-progress auctions of any kind.