What's the deal with this T206 on ebay?

[JP]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

I suppose it's possible, but that means that someone purchased this card on Ebay for $248.50 on January 18th, sold it to you on the BST for $165-180 on February 10, and then BOUGHT IT BACK FROM YOU ON EBAY FOR $185.48, ON 2/26. (Because both ebay buyers were the same guy.)

Me? I have some doubts.

Jim VB,

You better check yourself right now...

Here's the thread where I bought it
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=120432
and then I sold it on eBay yesterday. That is the extant of my knowledge on this card.

If you are 100% certain that whoever bought it on eBay originally is the person who bought it the second time, then direct your questions to user piedmont150 as you have tapped all of the information I have.

[drc]

Nearly everyone on this board has resold for a loss so flipping for a loss isn't something to be unduly embarrassed about.

[JP]

Originally Posted by drc

Nearly everyone on this board, including I, has resold for a loss on eBay at some time or other, so there's nothing to be unduly embarrassed about. Nearly everyone, including I, has done it multiple times.

I appreciate that BUT it was never my intention to sell the card a.k.a. Flip It.

And this has now snowballed into some subtle accusations...

I posted a thread wanting to buy t-206s and bought one. Then I sold it on eBay yesterday. Then Jim VB comes along and says that the card was bought on eBay before it was sold to me on Net54. And the person who bought it on eBay before is the same person who just bought it from me yesterday. If that is true, THAT is insane. That would mean that someone bought a card, sold to me at a $60 loss and then bought it right back from me for more than they sold it to me. Can you actually verify that's what happened Jim VB?

I ddnt even know the old eBay auction existed, but how can you see the winning bidder? As the seller, I obviously know who won it from me yesterday. If I say, am I breaking any eBay rules?

[Tcards-Please]

Originally Posted by JP

I appreciate that BUT it was never my intention to sell the card a.k.a. Flip It.

And this has now snowballed into some subtle accusations...

I posted a thread wanting to buy t-206s and bought one. Then I sold it on eBay yesterday. Then Jim VB comes along and says that the card was bought on eBay before it was sold to me on Net54. And the person who bought it on eBay before is the same person who just bought it from me yesterday. If that is true, THAT is insane. That would mean that someone bought a card, sold to me at a $60 loss and then bought it right back from me for more than they sold it to me. Can you actually verify that's what happened Jim VB?

I ddnt even know the old eBay auction existed, but how can you see the winning bidder? As the seller, I obviously know who won it from me yesterday. If I say, am I breaking any eBay rules?

JP
Click on the ebay links that Jim provided. Then click on Bid history of each link. You will see that the same user purchased both cards (6***F) with 41 feedback.

r/
Frank

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by JP

Can you actually verify that's what happened Jim VB?

I gave you the links to the two auctions. Next to "bid history", click on the number of bids and you'll see they were won by the same bidder.

[JP]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

I gave you the links to the two auctions. Next to "bid history", click on the number of bids and you'll see they were won by the same bidder.

O.K., I just did that. You're right....the guy who bought the Devin originally, is also the guy who bought it from me yesterday. I didn't want to confirm his username since only sellers are supposed to know buyers identities, and I didn't want to violate anyone's trust. But his username on eBay is not piedmont150 like it is in Net54, so I wasn't sure.

I have no idea why piedmont150 sold it to me for a loss and then bought it right back from me. But I do know that I didn't do anything wrong (just bought here and sold on eBay without knowing who anybody was) and I don't think there are any laws against owning the same card twice. And piedmont150 doesn't seem to have any advantage by buying it back at a loss...I mean he can't be trying to inflate the price since it keeps coming down. So I don't even know what you could be accusing anybody of, Jim? What am I missing here?

And let me ask you this, how was I supposed to know ANYTHING at all about who owned the card or how it was acquired before it was sold to me on this forum? And am I supposed to monitor every person who buys a card from me for any weird activity in the past? I can't even see who wins the auction until it closes!

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by JP

Jim VB,

If you are 100% certain that whoever bought it on eBay originally is the person who bought it the second time, then direct your questions to user piedmont150 as you have tapped all of the information I have.

LOL! Yes they are the same ebay ID on both transactions, so I'm 100% sure.

Before the edit, you asked if I was accusing you of something nefarious. Let's just say this kind of crap makes me very skeptical.

[JP]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

LOL! Yes they are the same ebay ID on both transactions, so I'm 100% sure.

Before the edit, you asked if I was accusing you of something nefarious. Let's just say this kind of crap makes me very skeptical.

That would make me skeptical as well, and I'd like to know now why piedmont sold this to me and bought it right back as well. I edited out "nefarious" because I wasn't sure the connotation applied. Any moderator could show you my PMs for the transaction...it was a pretty simple "he named the price, I paid it" sort of transaction. Piedmont150 hopefully can clear up all of this with an explanation. I'm just an innocent bystander who apparently is being railroaded into being a bad guy...

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by JP

Any moderator could show you my PMs for the transaction...

Nope. PM's are truly private...no one can see them except for you and the person who sent/received them.

[JP]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Nope. PM's are truly private...no one can see them except for you and the person who sent/received them.

Oh well, o.k., so somebody I didn't know sold me a card on here and then bought it back for a higher price, after losing a bunch of money selling it to me in the first place. So what can you guys be accusing him of doing? And furthermore, since I have no control over who wins my eBay auction, how on earth can I be a considered a party in this?


EDIT: I just went back through all of piedmont150s posts, and it seems like he was selling cards at the time to fund a project. So maybe he begrudgingly sold at a loss to me, and then after a few weeks went by, had the funds to buy back his card from me when he saw it on eBay, for as little as $5 more than what he sold it to me. I don't see anything wrong with this...so hopefully the issue is dead. If he did have some sort of evil plan behind this, and I was unwittingly helping, whatever it was didn't work. So hopefully we can leave this issue, and speculation as to what his reasons were for selling, alone.

[Rob D.]

Thank you for this thread, David.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Rob D.

Thank you for this thread, David.

Edited to add: I concur. This is the best thread since Dorskind threatened to sue himself!

[Rob D.]

JP,

I'll echo what others have posted: I don't need any PMs from you. If you've got something to say, post it here.

[FUBAR]

Things change in peoples lives and money comes and goes and no one should question why JP did this, it is his business.... He doesnt owe anyone an explanation except maybe his wife.

Dont worry if he sold it for a loss, he will make it up in volume! ;o)