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Old 01-18-2010, 02:09 PM
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In fairness, all of this would be fine IF THE GRADING SCALES WERE THE SAME! But they're not.
In case the book is checked out at the library, the class still has a few spots open:
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In case the book is checked out at the library, the class still has a few spots open:

Thanks Rob...in this virtual world I forgot about some of the methods we can now use to teach.

Jeff- For me, and consider the source, I would personally pick BVG as I think they are very good at grading. I am sure PSA does a great job too.
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So if I have a card in a BVG Authentic holder it would be pretty likely to be crossed over easily into an SGC A holder?
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I would pick Beckett as a secong choice unless I have a EX front card and a bit of damage on the back then PSA so that way I can get a really high grade for a really low grade card. SGC is #1 for me and I don't buy many beckett cards because I don't see many in my collecting interest to buy. They are very consistant from what I have seen and market does normally command close to Average so this is good.

Jeff the BVG Mantle hands down. Then cross to PSA for a 9 and off to auction
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I don't understand the concept that Beckett grades on a 5-10 scale because they want to offer a cheap alternative to their BVG service. Doesn't it cost the same to properly grade a card as it does to overgrade it?
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I don't understand the concept that Beckett grades on a 5-10 scale because they want to offer a cheap alternative to their BVG service. Doesn't it cost the same to properly grade a card as it does to overgrade it?

Barry,

I'm not arguing the Pro side here, but they do grade it more quickly because they don't have to split hairs over whether something is a 1 or a 2. It's simply a 5.


From a marketing point of view, someone who doesn't know what they're doing (or someone hoping to sell to someone who doesn't know what they're doing) is more likely to favor a BCCG 5 over a PSA 1.
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Jeff- For me, and consider the source, I would personally pick BVG as I think they are far more consistent in their grading, and know more about pre-war, than most of the graders at that grading company from California that is part of Collectors Universe. Just my opinion and many will disagree.
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You are certainly entitled to your opinions, but let's separate opinions from speculation. Do you know how many graders there are at PSA? Among them, how many grade vintage cards? And among those that grade vintage cards, how many have you had in-depth discussions with such than you would be in a place to draw an informed conclusion about their knowledge of vintage cards? Sure PSA has made mistakes. From my unscientific observation, the grading companies each make mistakes in approximately equal proportion to the number of cards they grade. You may know the graders at BVG and based on that know that they are knowledgeable about pre-War cards. Since I have hardly seen any pre-war cards in BVG holders, presuming they were knowledgeable in that are would be a giant leap of faith for me. I would certainly trust them with '89 Donruss if I had any.
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I would certainly trust them with '89 Donruss if I had any.

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Jim,
I was basing my comments on what I have personally seen but you are correct in that I don't know ANY graders at PSA. Because of that and I don't want to be accused of bashing, I have edited my comments. Thanks for the heads up!!
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Leon,
I hope I didn't seem too harsh. It has been tough day.
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My practical advice would be to mentally separate BCCG from BVG/BGS, and leave it at that. It's like Coke and diet Coke-- they both have Coke in the name but are different things. There's no practical gain in fretting over why the two Cokes taste so different. They just do.

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