Legendary T-206 Honus Wagner

[bijoem]

Originally Posted by Leon

I AM NOT defending anyone and thank goodness they don't advertise here or that too would be a conspiracy...

Leon -
everyone is a 'potential' advertiser.

so you will never be completely free from the conspiracy theories.

in addition, I was looking at an old film, and I think I may have seen you by the grassy knoll.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bijoem

Leon -
everyone is a 'potential' advertiser.

so you will never be completely free from the conspiracy theories.

in addition, I was looking at an old film, and I think I may have seen you by the grassy knoll.

I remember the arguments about the advertising very well, from about 3 yrs ago. It's so difficult to prove/defend what will or won't happen in the future. I can say though, that for the 3 yrs of banners, I have never once protected an advertiser. That being said I was very close to the grassy knoll yesterday. I had a great meeting with a new technology prospect and it was in downtown Dallas, so I was there. I was only 2 mos. old when JFK got shot and hadn't quite learned how to shoot at that time. However, I do remember chewing on a toy pistol once.

[Leon]

Doug left me a voicemail today and simply said the Wagner is being graded and they don't know what it will be yet. He said he didn't feel it was appropriate to state the grade when they don't know what it is. It's as simple as that.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Leon

Doug left me a voicemail today and simply said the Wagner is being graded and they don't know what it will be yet. He said he didn't feel it was appropriate to state the grade when they don't know what it is. It's as simple as that.

A likely story. How can someone leave mail by voice? Doesn't make any sense. Seems really suspicious to me. And how do you know it was even Doug's voice? I suspect it was someone with a pro-Mastro/Legendary agenda just trying to come to the defense of the indefensible.

To quote an old friend of mine on Net54, "Yawn."

[calvindog]

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...px?lotid=98847

I'll be in Chicago next week on some business...maybe I can stop by Mastro and check the new Wagner out.

[Matt]

The grade drops:
http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...100&category=1

"Disclosure: It must be clarified that, although past restoration has been largely reversed, as described, under no circumstances would a qualified grading service or knowledgeable collector ever deem this card to be anything but a restored or altered example. In no way does our description intend to imply that this collectible should be regarded as anything but an authentic "altered" card."

[calvindog]

Gee, I thought that Doug didn't know what the grade would be? Sure sounds like it was an "Authentic" all the way through. Sure took a long time to figure out that 'grade.'

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

Doug left me a voicemail today and simply said the Wagner is being graded and they don't know what it will be yet. He said he didn't feel it was appropriate to state the grade when they don't know what it is. It's as simple as that.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

My guess, and this really is a guess as I don't know for sure, is that they were hoping to get a grade after the restoration was removed. Not all of it could be removed so it stayed in an AUT holder.

Now ya'll can continue in your "once upon a time" fairyland.....BTW, I wonder how much Jeff is paying to represent Dave? .

[Peter_Spaeth]

"Disclosure: It must be clarified that, although past restoration has been largely reversed, as described, under no circumstances would a qualified grading service or knowledgeable collector ever deem this card to be anything but a restored or altered example. In no way does our description intend to imply that this collectible should be regarded as anything but an authentic "altered" card."

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

"Disclosure: It must be clarified that, although past restoration has been largely reversed, as described, under no circumstances would a qualified grading service or knowledgeable collector ever deem this card to be anything but a restored or altered example. In no way does our description intend to imply that this collectible should be regarded as anything but an authentic "altered" card."

ok...so why quote this Peter? This was written after it was back to AUT....I guess I am missing your conspiracy theory on this one?