Net54 T206 observation

[barrysloate]

We have so many threads about T206 front/back combinations that it could almost have its own section.

[Leon]

T206 conversations are great. They are probably the most collected pre-war set (maybe minus Goudey). My frustration comes from the members that only take.....If you read the board very frequently and have under about 20 posts in the last 7 months....you probably fall into that category. That's just my opinion. I certainly don't dislike the takers but, as the board goes, the givers are much more important. As a matter of fact I have told several people that IF there is a Net54 dinner this year, and that is a big IF, then it will possibly be only for givers. The takers can go somewhere else to keep taking.....

[4815162342]

I'm a taker who has nothing to give... but click-throughs to generate revenue from the banner ads.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

I'm a taker who has nothing to give... but click-throughs to generate revenue from the banner ads.

As I said, if you have under about 20 posts I consider you a taker...no big deal but it is what it is. You have about 83 posts so are not in that class. As for revenue for click throughs I could give a rats patoot. The board will be fine with or without me, the banners, or any few folks.....This board has been resilient through many trials and tribulations and will continue to be. Thanks again to all those that freely share in this great hobby we all love....warm regards

[gnuche]

Leon, There are many of us lurkers on net54 and I am one of them. I am not as knowledgeable as almost all of the regular posters on net 54 but enjoy learning from them. I consider myself "less guilty" than those takers who never
post but always use the B/S/T. I can't remember ever using the B/S/T, in fact
I preferred to consign to your auction house. I am not sure why my name is the only one you listed. How many "takers" are there. Leon, does this have more to
do with removing the mastro/legendary banner and the loss of revenue it cost you. I enjoyed the net 54 dinner, and resent that you are think I am there for free food and drink. I had a great time with my fellow collectors and would
have attended had I had to pay my own way. If Doug Allen pays that much for the banner put it back up. Hopefully a few "givers" on net 54 will object.

[Leon]

Gary- I still consider you a hobby friend. My only beef is that of your 12 posts on the board, before this thread, 11 of them were ONLY to try to get your money back. You know I tried to help you do that too. You have been collecting for over 35 yrs (I believe), surely there is something you could contribute to the forum other than 1 post in the last 7 months? I see you reading it sometimes and have just had that thought. As for the banner, until ALL Mastro consignors are paid, and I am not sure that has been done, it is not an option...and most likely they won't advertise again anyway because of the stand I/we made. That is fine and it was the right thing to do, given the circumstances. I have been a bit frustrated lately about the board and when this thread got posted I took the opportunity, just as any member does, to give my view. Maybe I am wrong about it but it's the way I feel. I hope you have a happy, safe holidays and I look forward to chatting again at the next National...take care

[gnuche]

Leon, Could you at least call out one more person so that I am not the only
one labeled a "cheap taker". Surely someone on the B/S/T list has cheated
someone and you could call them out so I am not alone. Maybe a lurker who has posted fewer times than me. How about someone who drank or ate way more than there share at the net 54 dinner. Cheap, , I can't believe you
called me cheap and think that I come to the net 54 dinner for free food and drink.

[packs]

Am I the only one who finds the T206 set boring? Its everywhere. Collecting that set would most definitely be fun and hugely rewarding once you've completed it, but so is eating a tub of vanilla ice cream. Type sets forever!

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by packs

Am I the only one who finds the T206 set boring?!

No.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Bicem

No.

Are you bored by its awesomeness?

[Dave1943]

I regret that I am viewed as a non-participant, but I ask that I be allowed to remain a member. I only became recently interested in baseball cards, and I live in an area where vintage cards are 1980ish. I have no desire to be considered a 'taker', but I do not feel that I have gained enough knowledge or acquired enough cards to have anything worthwhile to contribute to your excellent forum.

Respectfully,

Dave

[matthew]

To the poster above - --

I don't have the info in front of me, but there are quite a few T206 SLers who had ML experience. Some may have just a had a cup of coffee, but there are some pretty good careers sprinkled through them as well. I view them as no different (or better in some cases) than the mediocre major leaguers.

[rhettyeakley]

Some things to know about Frank Shaughnessy (of T206 fame) other than the Dracula look...

Shaughnessy had a very long career as a baseball player, manager, and then became president of the International League for nearly 30 years, that is what (in my opinion) makes him a more desirable card to have than any other SL card. Not to mention he was captain of the 1904 Notre Dame football team. He is also a member of the Canadian Football HOF (was also head coach of Clemson a few years after John Heisman), and is in the Canadian baseball HOF. In all seriousness Frank Shaughnessy is one of the most important "forgotten" sports figures of the early 20th century.

Here is a trivia question about Shag: (that I don't have all the answers to)
How many other T206ers are pictured on a card put out by Topps before 1970 (other than 1951 Connie Mack All-Stars)?

What Topps set (defined as anything produced by Topps) is Shag featured in?

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Dave1943

I regret that I am viewed as a non-participant, but I ask that I be allowed to remain a member. I only became recently interested in baseball cards, and I live in an area where vintage cards are 1980ish. I have no desire to be considered a 'taker', but I do not feel that I have gained enough knowledge or acquired enough cards to have anything worthwhile to contribute to your excellent forum.

Respectfully,

Dave

Dave,

I don't think Leon was thinking about canceling anyone's membership. Just the opposite, he's trying to encourage everyone to participate more.

I don't know where you live, but much of the country has the same approach to what's "vintage." There are probably a dozen or more board members here, within a few miles radius around Dallas (myself, Leon, Jeff P, Rich K, just to name a few) yet you couldn't find a card shop, dealer, or show no matter how long you looked. That's what's great about this board, the internet, and even Ebay. You can find almost anything you want.

[barrysloate]

T206 is a great set and people should talk about it as much as they want. But I agree with Brian that each time someone has another thought or question about the set, there's not always the need to start a new thread.

If you want to ask a question about rare backs, it's almost guaranteed that there is already a thread in progress on the main page.

[bijoem]

Originally Posted by Leon

If you read the board very frequently and have under about 20 posts in the last 7 months....you probably fall into that category. That's just my opinion. I certainly don't dislike the takers but, as the board goes, the givers are much more important. As a matter of fact I have told several people that IF there is a Net54 dinner this year, and that is a big IF, then it will possibly be only for givers. The takers can go somewhere else to keep taking.....

I am bit surprised by this post.

I think I am close to being in the 'taker' category.
But, I always felt like one of the family..... until now.


edit: for more accuracy.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bijoem

I am bit surprised by this post.

I think I am close to being in the 'taker' category.
But, I always felt like one of the family..... until now.


edit: for more accuracy.

As I said Joe, you are one of the givers as you have over about 20 posts. You have exponentially more and thanks for your participation. I think the Net54 Dinner should be a payback for those that contribute not just those that want a free meal and drinks. Again, I doubt there will be one but if there is, then this is my thinking.....

[bijoem]

Originally Posted by Leon

As I said Joe, you are one of the givers as you have over about 20 posts. You have exponentially more and thanks for your participation. I think the Net54 Dinner should be a payback for those that contribute not just those that want a free meal and drinks. Again, I doubt there will be one but if there is, then this is my thinking.....

I guess my self-reflection I would consider myself more of a taker than a giver.... especially here where there is so much to take.

If there is not a dinner....
I hope we still get together in some form - so that I could buy you a drink or three.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bijoem

I guess my self-reflection I would consider myself more of a taker than a giver.... especially here where there is so much to take.

If there is not a dinner....
I hope we still get together in some form - so that I could buy you a drink or three.

I hope we can get together at the National again....Heck, I will always take a free drink too . You are certainly one of the good guys and I value our friendship. best regards

[t206wagner]

The only cards I buy and know anything about are the t206's. There is no way that I can say anything constructive about any of the caramel sets, exhibits etc. Other than the posts about people inquiring about certain front and back combinations, there is really nothing that I can add. Sorry for being a taker.

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by bijoem

I guess my self-reflection I would consider myself more of a taker than a giver.... especially here where there is so much to take.

If there is not a dinner....
I hope we still get together in some form - so that I could buy you a drink or three.

Joe, you can come to my takers-only dinner.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Bicem

Joe, you can come to my takers-only dinner.

Instigators and antagonizers will have their own dinner. I am sure Jeff will be sponsoring that one...