E100 printers scrap revisited

[Leon]

Originally Posted by jimonym

I'm no printer either, but it seems to me that part of what it means to be a "scrap" is that the partially-printed or trashed "scrap" derives from the same printing plates as the finished card. These clearly didn't; both the images (by size) and type font (also by size) are different.

Is that glue residue on the back of the Powell?

Yes, I think it's residue on the back of Powell. The only fly in the ointment on the E100's are that the 2 different series were in fact cropped differently. That at least makes ya' think about whether these could have been done as a test? I guess "ad piece" would be a better term but it doesn't feel right calling it that either.....I am open for suggestions .

[packs]

The Type 2's are definitely more closely cropped and have a more upfront image than the Type 1's, but Powell doesn't appear in the Type 2 set.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by packs

The Type 2's are definitely more closely cropped and have a more upfront image than the Type 1's, but Powell doesn't appear in the Type 2 set.

Powell hasn't been found (yet), or at least catalogued. He might appear as a late entry though.....So far you are stating the obvious, which is fairly easy to do. Thanks for the explanations .

[dstudeba]

Leon,

Are those all scaled the same? As I recall from the dimensions from the auctions on eBay the images were the same size as the issued cards. Also since the scan you show is a composite to cut out the holders on the new cards, it is a bit deceiving.
As probably previously mentioned, the scraps have nothing to do with Type IIs, the font and cropping is wrong.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by dstudeba

Leon,

Are those all scaled the same? As I recall from the dimensions from the auctions on eBay the images were the same size as the issued cards. Also since the scan you show is a composite to cut out the holders on the new cards, it is a bit deceiving.
As probably previously mentioned, the scraps have nothing to do with Type IIs, the font and cropping is wrong.

Good point Dan. I do need to go get the "scraps" from my safe deposit box so I can make sure they are sized the same as the regular ones. They very well might not be. Of course the fonts and cropping are wrong for the type 2's....but there looks to be a cropping difference, was all I was mentioning. It is rare for a similar type series to have different cropping ala the E100-1 and E100-2. So these being cropped differently than either type 1s or 2s (most likely) still makes sense...It probably is a 3rd different cropping but I will make sure later on and post a more accurate scan..

[dstudeba]

Hi Leon,

Sorry I just can't see the cropping difference. Now if the picture is to scale, then I see the difference. I think I would have noticed if the scraps were the same size as the regular e100s when you showed them to me at the National, as at that time I was working on the assumption that they were trimmed down from e100 size.
I look forward to seeing the side by side scan; or you can just sell one to me and I will do it.....

[Leon]

Here ya go....and of course you were correct....