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Old 12-07-2009, 12:18 PM
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Credit goes to our division director here at Heritage Auctions Sports Collectibles division Chris Ivy for spotting this: the serial number of the Cobb t206 in question was actually lifted from a card we sold in our October 2009 Signature Auction. Here's the link:

http://sports.ha.com/common/view_ite...o=81002&src=pr

It's obviously pretty apparent that it is not the same card.
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:57 PM
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Wow, great work!
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:14 PM
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I just got an email from a guy named "ray rod jr"
email address: kalmanweiss1951@yahoo.com
Ebay user ID: cardboardtreasures311

He just offered to sell me the cards at 75% SMR. He emailed me through Ebay, so I have his Ebay id and his email address. The cards he sent in the scan are the exact ones you guys are questioning. I am going to notify Ebay that he is emailing Ebay sellers trying to sell phony cards.
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:57 PM
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I just got an email from a guy named "ray rod jr"
email address: kalmanweiss1951@yahoo.com
Ebay user ID: cardboardtreasures311

He just offered to sell me the cards at 75% SMR. He emailed me through Ebay, so I have his Ebay id and his email address. The cards he sent in the scan are the exact ones you guys are questioning. I am going to notify Ebay that he is emailing Ebay sellers trying to sell phony cards.
Tell him you'd like to pay by check and you need his address. Then send the address to the FBI/Police.
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Old 12-07-2009, 02:21 PM
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I asked him if he would accept postal money orders, if so to send me his mailing address for payment.
He replied:"Yes I will accept postal money orders. do you have a SMR and do you know what the total is. i think the aaron books at 18k and the Jordan 6k and the cobb 14k total 38k so 75% would be 28k for all three cards. I will accept 28 postal money orders for 1k each let me know if that is cool with you. my address is

Raymud Rodriguez Jr
1674 Palm Ave #80
San Diego CA 92154"

I then contacted PSA directly, they asked me to forward the images and our correspondence (which I did). They said that the operations manager would be looking into this as soon as the emails were received.
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Old 12-07-2009, 02:37 PM
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I have made a phone call and am very comfortable that the original poster in this thread is not a scammer but is helping all of us. I sincerely hope hope these fraudster(s) get their dues......best regards
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This get's a little creepier. I was wondering why a Raymud Rodriguez would have an email address of "KalmanWeiss1951." Sounded like someone's given name, and perhaps a not particularly common one (at least the first name, Kalman). So I googled Kalman Weiss and found a Kalman Weiss who was born in 1951. Matches the email address. Here's where it gets creepy. He passed away one month ago on November 3, 2009. His Ebay ID was changed on November 2nd.
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Old 12-07-2009, 04:52 PM
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I have made a phone call and am very comfortable that the original poster in this thread is not a scammer but is helping all of us. I sincerely hope hope these fraudster(s) get their dues......best regards

I am glad to hear this. I am also glad to hear that Chris found this guy and is going to turn him over to be prosecuted (hopefully)
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:15 PM
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Wow great job guys.
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:54 PM
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Chris,

Go one step further and alert the FBI and the local police in the seller's area. Even if he isn't arrested, if the police or FBI show up at his door or make it known they are on to him, it might do some good.

David

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Also, since this was ripped off from a card that Heritage sold, eBay might take more interest IF Heritage talks to them about this or if the real owner of the Cobb card steps up and says something. PSA might become more interested as well.

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