Authenticity On These Psa Cards

What I find the most amazing about this is that the Poster has only posted 3x's (all 3 on this thread) and everyone here is willing to just explain in minute detail how to correct the already fraudulant PSA flips. This way he can remake the flips over and over till he gets it right and then what?????

Isn't that how we learn about our cards. We ask and ask till it becomes ingrained and we can spot a fake a mile away. We learn from the best in our hobby and that knowledge is passed on and on to help.

So if we give these people what they need to learn how to fool us then isn't that like shooting yourself in the foot on purpose to see if it actually leaves a hole to see through.

It just concerns me about this kind of thing. Especially since he is a first time Poster/ect. This is just IMO

[ChiefBenderForever]

Originally Posted by Pup6913

What I find the most amazing about this is that the Poster has only posted 3x's (all 3 on this thread) and everyone here is willing to just explain in minute detail how to correct the already fraudulant PSA flips. This way he can remake the flips over and over till he gets it right and then what?????

Isn't that how we learn about our cards. We ask and ask till it becomes ingrained and we can spot a fake a mile away. We learn from the best in our hobby and that knowledge is passed on and on to help.

So if we give these people what they need to learn how to fool us then isn't that like shooting yourself in the foot on purpose to see if it actually leaves a hole to see through.

It just concerns me about this kind of thing. Especially since he is a first time Poster/ect. This is just IMO

There is only so much you can do when it comes to these idiot crooks. What comes around goes around and eventually they will get what's coming to them. The sad thing is if these people would use the talents and skills they have to make an honest buck they would probably be quite successful, but instead will most likely end up squealing like a pig in a prison cell sooner or later and rightfully so.

[teetwoohsix]

I hate to admit it,but I seem to have trouble identifying fake flips (PSA) from legit ones.Usually when I buy PSA graded cards on Ebay(T206),I try to buy mostly from well known legit dealers(like tbarlage,for example).But I am learning alot from reading the board-and I appreciate all of the knowledge everyone on the board is so kind to share-thank you!!

I despise these fraudulent thieves who re-holder fake cards,make fake flips,doctor,alter,trim cards for the sole purpose of lining their pockets with their victims' hard earned cash.

It sucks to know these people cast a cloud over such a wonderful hobby.

Thank you to all of the card sellers who only sell legit!!!!!

[mintacular]

As much as I despise Beckett, I have not heard of anyone being able to tamper with/replicate their holders...

Originally Posted by mintacular

As much as I despise Beckett, I have not heard of anyone being able to tamper with/replicate their holders...

Send an altered card in and get a case back to start. Fake card or altered high dollar card next. BGS/BVG flips do not look that hard to duplicate as PSA's. Seal it and sell. Thing is BVG will not bring the most money for a card. This is why PSA seems to be the target.

Has anyone seen a fake SGC slab or flip??? I would love to see that if there is one.

[mintacular]

holders are damn near impossible to crack and reuse and finding a cheap imitation of their holder would be much harder than PSAs, I reckon...

Pat I was saying like with any other grading service if you send a card in for grading and don't want it holdered if it is Authentic they will send you the holder back with the card. Got one back with a 56 Topps Robinson I had done several yrs back. All I need is a fake flip and a card and I am in. 1 card can be enough for the time being. Or maybe send in 3-4 with a larger order of crap cards and 3-4 fakes can be made for a few $. Sorry if I was unclear about this.

[onlychild]

The Cobb card is very interesting and worth studying. Not only is it highly probable that the flip has either been completely faked or doctored (as discussed in several previous threads) but, as some have mentioned, the card looks to be altered as well. Not only does it appear to be trimmed but if you look at the back there is "a chance" that it has a rebuilt corner as well...top left on the back.

This caught my eye; the edge chipping on the back left side runs up to the point where there is a slight shadow. It then turns inward. On a good rebuilt corner a shadow will sometimes be seen under a halogen when angled at just the right position. Here is an example from the rebuilt corner page on my website:



The Cobb back is tough to tell because the scan is somewhat small. I took the corner and increased the image size and tried to get the correct color shading to make it easier to see...still tough though.




Not only does the chipping stop at the suspected shadow (dark line) with a blatant inward turn, the top edge also is shadowed to the point where a suspected rebuilt corner may begin.

Is that corner rebuilt? Hard to tell, it could just be reshaped to sharpen the corner but it is certainly something to consider. It would be great to see in person.


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