sfmays24 is a person of interest

[sfmays24]

Leon,

We have made hundreds of trades & purchases with with fellow PSA & N54 board members over the years and I still feel the only legitimate non-delivery item resulted in my loss of the cards, $25 cash and a $25 graded card... I never blamed the sender in any way, didn't ask for a thing (nor did he offer any) I consider this matter closed and I thought the sender did as well.

How is this a an issue at all now and why has one person who has nothing to do with this made so much of it?

Mike

PS: not that it matters, but this issue and the one about us losing the cards, money & graded card (sent as part of the deal) both occurred last year and neither person took me up on my offer to settle any gripe they had with me. Instead they just joined the stone throwing and passed on their side of the story without mentioning all the facts.

[nam812]

sfmays24, I would like to hear more about the $500 set of cards that was sent for your approval and then if it was to your liking you would remit payment for it. That was a large amount of trust on the sender's part, and it is the contention of some that the sender has proof of delivery, but you claim not to have received that set either.

I always like to hear both sides of a story.

[sfmays24]

nam812,

Some 5 1/2 years ago I sold a $2000 item to a board member, payment was received and item delivered.

Approx 1/2 year or so later, I inquired about a card he discussed in a thread and asked if it was for sale (and a scan)... he sent me a scan and told me he would sell it to me, but only if I purchased others as well. I asked for scans for those and never received any after 2-3 weeks of waiting. He contacted me and offered to send the cards and I told him that wasn't necessary, that scans will do. A few weeks later he asked about them and I told him that I still haven't received anything (cards or scans)... that was the last I heard of this matter until a couple of weeks ago (some 4-5 years later).

Once again, this person never took me up on my offer to settle any gripes and failed to mention all the facts when he spoke of this matter... once again, I'd like very much to see such proof of shipment/delivery to me and am more than willing to do what I can to make this right need be.

However, since I know that such items were never received and that the $200-$300 deal has now become a $500 deal (and perhaps grow the next time the story is told), what am I suppose to do?

Mike

[sfmays24]

whitehse,

Please forward the proof you speak about, that shows items were received from you and I will file a complaint with the Post Office. Why you didn't do this or contact me when I made an open offer to everyone, is something I'll never understand.

As for other issues you talk about, I have addressed them here and tried to on more than one occasion elsewhere ...which just led to the very angry member to post more untrue accusations, each more outrageous than the last, you cannot reason or have a mature dialog with such a person.

Mike

[Leon]

Originally Posted by sfmays24

whitehse,

Please forward the proof you speak about, that shows items were received from you and I will file a complaint with the Post Office. Why you didn't do this or contact me when I made an open offer to everyone, is something I'll never understand.

As for other issues you talk about, I have addressed them here and tried to on more than one occasion elsewhere ...which just led to the very angry member to post more untrue accusations, each more outrageous than the last, you cannot reason or have a mature dialog with such a person.

Mike

Hey Mike
So it is your contention there has only been 1 lost package? It seems that there are more people saying it than 1?

[Taxman]

Originally Posted by Leon

Hey Mike
So it is your contention there has only been 1 lost package? It seems that there are more people saying it than 1?

Leon,

The package he(supposedly) sent me was lost in the mail. I filed a paypal claim and they ruled in my favor but Mike closed his account so I didnt get a refund. He got my address from paypal when I sent him payment. So his excuse of not having the right address is WRONG. Where there is smoke there is fire, This baby is FLAMING!!!!

Best answer is probably for all of us to contact the post office in his town.

Kirk

[sfmays24]

justmike,

As stated in this thread, I did indeed reply to the accusations which simply led to more outrageous lies... you may believe that I do collect with my Kids (as so many others do), or you may not... that's your choice, but to make accusations that I do not and are somehow cheating folks is not okay (or accurate).

One last point, the sets we worked on and completed are raw mid-grade (EX or so) cards, they do not have much value as some have claimed other than pure enjoyment that some folks can't seem to understand. In addition, only some 20% or so of the cards were offered to us as gifts and done so by nice collectors... the rest was obtained via trade or purchases. Why some people think this is some how a scam or dishonest I cannot understand.

Am I the only collector who has built sets this way? Is there no one out there who has traded, purchased, sent or received free cards in the past?

All our post are offers to trade period... if someone send us a card and asks for nothing in return we find that to be very kind and generous (and express so each and every time) and the same goes for our trades.

Mike

[sfmays24]

Leon,

There is only one that I can verify... Bobafett72 (who was banned on the PSA Forum and later signed up with a new user ID IchiroDeported) provided a DC number for me to verify last year.

The others mentioned (one last year and one some 4-5 years ago), I cannot verify to consider them the same as above. However, each posted they have proof of delivery... I will check with the Post Office/file complaint when such proof is provided. What else can I do?

Mike

[Matt]

Mike - how many packages that others have claimed they sent to you didn't make it?

[sfmays24]

Taxman,

Why can't you just stick to the truth in this matter? The USPS website indicated that the package could not be delivered to the address you provided, you have to DC # and know this already... in addition, you know that the package was sent to the Mail Facility. You stated that I never sent you anything, or that I closed my account-both untrue.

Mike

[justmike]

Originally Posted by sfmays24

justmike,



Am I the only collector who has built sets this way? Is there no one out there who has traded, purchased, sent or received free cards in the past?



Mike

I have built many sets and no none were built for free.Keep in mind I was one of the people who sent you free cards.
Mike

[whitehse]

Originally Posted by sfmays24

whitehse,

Please forward the proof you speak about, that shows items were received from you and I will file a complaint with the Post Office. Why you didn't do this or contact me when I made an open offer to everyone, is something I'll never understand.

As for other issues you talk about, I have addressed them here and tried to on more than one occasion elsewhere ...which just led to the very angry member to post more untrue accusations, each more outrageous than the last, you cannot reason or have a mature dialog with such a person.

Mike

In an effort to no longer clog up this thread with the ole' he said..he said....I forwarded the information and receipts that I have to Leon in a PM. I am backing out of this thread now as I never was actually "ripped off" but feel something is not quite right.

I will leave others to sort it out.

[nam812]

sfmays24, in my post to you I said it was a "set" of cards that was said to have been delivered to you, not a high value graded card or two. Are you saying that no one has ever sent you a $500 set of cards (approx value) for you to approve first and send payment later if you liked it?

[sfmays24]

nam812,

Based on the info I read about in all the threads over the past few weeks, I concluded that you were talking about the issue I addressed in my last reply to you... I have nothing more to add and await the proof you or someone else has that shows such delivery of items/set.

If you are asking if there is another set/deal, then the answer is no.

Mike

[barrysloate]

Hi Bob- yes, excited about the Yankees, but not so excited about this thread. I don't understand why this lengthy and complicated issue has to be aired in public like this. Can't the parties involved work it out themselves?

[mays-24]

I agree Barry, it should have been handled behind closed doors via email.

I'm hoping my SF Giants somehow get there.

Good luck with your Yankees.

Bob.