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Old 09-15-2009, 12:08 PM
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whitehse,

Please forward the proof you speak about, that shows items were received from you and I will file a complaint with the Post Office. Why you didn't do this or contact me when I made an open offer to everyone, is something I'll never understand.

As for other issues you talk about, I have addressed them here and tried to on more than one occasion elsewhere ...which just led to the very angry member to post more untrue accusations, each more outrageous than the last, you cannot reason or have a mature dialog with such a person.

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Old 09-15-2009, 12:10 PM
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whitehse,

Please forward the proof you speak about, that shows items were received from you and I will file a complaint with the Post Office. Why you didn't do this or contact me when I made an open offer to everyone, is something I'll never understand.

As for other issues you talk about, I have addressed them here and tried to on more than one occasion elsewhere ...which just led to the very angry member to post more untrue accusations, each more outrageous than the last, you cannot reason or have a mature dialog with such a person.

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Hey Mike
So it is your contention there has only been 1 lost package? It seems that there are more people saying it than 1?
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:23 PM
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Hey Mike
So it is your contention there has only been 1 lost package? It seems that there are more people saying it than 1?
Leon,

The package he(supposedly) sent me was lost in the mail. I filed a paypal claim and they ruled in my favor but Mike closed his account so I didnt get a refund. He got my address from paypal when I sent him payment. So his excuse of not having the right address is WRONG. Where there is smoke there is fire, This baby is FLAMING!!!!

Best answer is probably for all of us to contact the post office in his town.

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Old 09-15-2009, 12:18 PM
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justmike,

As stated in this thread, I did indeed reply to the accusations which simply led to more outrageous lies... you may believe that I do collect with my Kids (as so many others do), or you may not... that's your choice, but to make accusations that I do not and are somehow cheating folks is not okay (or accurate).

One last point, the sets we worked on and completed are raw mid-grade (EX or so) cards, they do not have much value as some have claimed other than pure enjoyment that some folks can't seem to understand. In addition, only some 20% or so of the cards were offered to us as gifts and done so by nice collectors... the rest was obtained via trade or purchases. Why some people think this is some how a scam or dishonest I cannot understand.

Am I the only collector who has built sets this way? Is there no one out there who has traded, purchased, sent or received free cards in the past?

All our post are offers to trade period... if someone send us a card and asks for nothing in return we find that to be very kind and generous (and express so each and every time) and the same goes for our trades.

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Old 09-15-2009, 12:25 PM
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Leon,

There is only one that I can verify... Bobafett72 (who was banned on the PSA Forum and later signed up with a new user ID IchiroDeported) provided a DC number for me to verify last year.

The others mentioned (one last year and one some 4-5 years ago), I cannot verify to consider them the same as above. However, each posted they have proof of delivery... I will check with the Post Office/file complaint when such proof is provided. What else can I do?

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Old 09-15-2009, 12:28 PM
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Mike - how many packages that others have claimed they sent to you didn't make it?
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:31 PM
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if the packages are miraculously found maybe you and your sons should put some up for auction...and give 50% to a charity, MS would be my choice.
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:30 PM
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Taxman,

Why can't you just stick to the truth in this matter? The USPS website indicated that the package could not be delivered to the address you provided, you have to DC # and know this already... in addition, you know that the package was sent to the Mail Facility. You stated that I never sent you anything, or that I closed my account-both untrue.

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Old 09-15-2009, 12:31 PM
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Matt,

The answer is zero... I can only verify one as mentioned and eagerly await info to check on the other two.

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Old 09-15-2009, 12:33 PM
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chaddurbin,

If any are found, they will be returned unopened... I await the proof to do my part on this end.

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Old 09-15-2009, 12:37 PM
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The answer is zero... I can only verify one as mentioned and eagerly await info to check on the other two.

Mike
I didn't ask how many you have verified. I presume before people send you something they speak with you via email to discuss what they are sending and get your address? I'm asking how many times have people said they would send you some cards and you never got the package?
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:33 PM
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Date Posted: Feb/11/2009 9:43 AM
That's the address I used... do you want me to ask them to send you the items?




Copy of your CU pm about the address. AGAIN, you got my address from paypal. I have bought numerous items on this board and EBAY using paypal and they supplied the same address as I gave to you.

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Old 09-15-2009, 12:38 PM
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justmike,

Believe what you will, our sets are not built for free... do you not believe the folks who have replied stating they sold or traded cards with us?

Did we not thank you for any cards you sent us, what are you looking for from me?

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Old 09-15-2009, 12:42 PM
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Taxman,

I used the address you provided and you verified that fact, you also know that what I wrote is true... it is not my opinion, but the USPS noted on their website that the package could not be delivered to the address you provided. I asked you if you wanted me to contact the mail facility once they process the package to then have it sent to you... I concluded that you did not once you filed a paypal claim.

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Old 09-15-2009, 12:33 PM
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Am I the only collector who has built sets this way? Is there no one out there who has traded, purchased, sent or received free cards in the past?



Mike
I have built many sets and no none were built for free.Keep in mind I was one of the people who sent you free cards.
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:54 PM
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whitehse,

Please forward the proof you speak about, that shows items were received from you and I will file a complaint with the Post Office. Why you didn't do this or contact me when I made an open offer to everyone, is something I'll never understand.

As for other issues you talk about, I have addressed them here and tried to on more than one occasion elsewhere ...which just led to the very angry member to post more untrue accusations, each more outrageous than the last, you cannot reason or have a mature dialog with such a person.

Mike
In an effort to no longer clog up this thread with the ole' he said..he said....I forwarded the information and receipts that I have to Leon in a PM. I am backing out of this thread now as I never was actually "ripped off" but feel something is not quite right.

I will leave others to sort it out.
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:58 PM
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sfmays24, in my post to you I said it was a "set" of cards that was said to have been delivered to you, not a high value graded card or two. Are you saying that no one has ever sent you a $500 set of cards (approx value) for you to approve first and send payment later if you liked it?
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:03 PM
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nam812,

Based on the info I read about in all the threads over the past few weeks, I concluded that you were talking about the issue I addressed in my last reply to you... I have nothing more to add and await the proof you or someone else has that shows such delivery of items/set.

If you are asking if there is another set/deal, then the answer is no.

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Old 09-15-2009, 01:09 PM
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So you never had a deal in the works for a 1969 Topps 4 in 1 football set to be sent to you for you to look over and then possibly purchase if you approved of the set?
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:01 PM
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Hi Bob- yes, excited about the Yankees, but not so excited about this thread. I don't understand why this lengthy and complicated issue has to be aired in public like this. Can't the parties involved work it out themselves?
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I agree Barry, it should have been handled behind closed doors via email.

I'm hoping my SF Giants somehow get there.

Good luck with your Yankees.

Bob.

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Old 09-15-2009, 01:14 PM
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I have a baseball signed both by Calvin Cooledge and Mother Teressa. The ink seems the same although I guess it could have been signed at two seperate times. What do you guys think?
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:17 PM
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Thats a nice ball. If you sell it to Mike be sure and hand deliver it.

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Old 09-15-2009, 01:25 PM
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Mike--Thanks for the tip. I have one for you--proper English is "if you sell", not "if you sale".
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