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Old 08-19-2009, 05:20 PM
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I fall on the Jodi "with an i" side, but I also know that no one is going to shut down a legal money making venture because some people deem it harmful, so everyone might as well add this to the list of things to look out for in collecting autograph baseballs.
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Old 08-19-2009, 06:59 PM
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I agree that once the ball leaves Dick's hands all bets are off as to seller disclosure. I have a proposal that might help mitigate the damage.

We all know that major league baseball puts a special marking on baseballs when a major record is imminent (Barry Bonds HRs, for example) in order to validate the authenticity of a ball caught by a fan. It can be very unobtrusive; it might even be invisible to the eye but visible under the blacklight. I don't know if it's a hologram, but whatever it is...it works.

I wonder if Dick would consider "marking his territory" via such a marking that wouldn't interfere with the display of the refined baseball, but nevertheless would stand as a permanent way of identifying that work was done?
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Old 08-19-2009, 07:25 PM
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Imagine if Dick were subpoenaed? YIKES!!!!!
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Old 08-19-2009, 07:42 PM
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Hidden text that identifies hidden text, interesting idea Rick.
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Old 08-19-2009, 10:29 PM
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Great idea, think of it like an artist signing hos work and that would solve many problems if you could see it under a black light. Doesn't PSA use some such system to mark the balls anyway?

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Old 08-19-2009, 11:44 PM
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I would guess you could identify the removal with a black light. Richard Simon used a black light to test out another company's removals and it worked.

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Old 08-20-2009, 10:57 AM
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I would guess you could identify the removal with a black light. Richard Simon used a black light to test out another company's removals and it worked.
OK, it is time I stepped up to the plate, I threw this out to see what the response would be, just like 15 years ago when SCD did the story about my business of removing stains, tape and much more. Then, like now, 50% of the worlds population agreed what I did, 50% did not, gosh, one of the people who did not agree what I do was from ASA grading many years ago. I have only done 1 ball, and yes we already used a black light, nothing shows, and yes, I have already talked to a chemist, and yes we can put a watermark on the ball, and yes it won't make a difference because the ball grader is going to grade the signature, not the watermark.

I have done all this already. I hope this can help all, and yes Peter, I can also remove fine creases on anything, and you ask" should there be a disclosure- sure you can tell the customer the crease was removed- however allow him to find the crease- he can't because it is gone. I ran test 16 years ago for PSA, Mike Baker and Rocky on cards they handed me to try- I did the job, and they found nothing-- case closed- I ran 15 cards for SGC before they did the story, they found nothing- story went live.

We are very proud to have helped 100's of dealers and customer over the 15 years, and God willing will continue" to do so. So I say the people who don't like what I do, I 100% respect that, but please don't try to sell me a card with a slight crease, or stain, or anything and expect to be paid like there is little wrong with card- For the other 50% who have used my service, please continue, as you will see the benefit of a outstanding looking card for your collection. As I said a few months ago when a man bought 2 T205 collection 30 years ago and that was his 401 K- finding out 343 of the cards were tipped with gold paid, rendering these cards as what they are, and removing the paint and all graded- every darn one of them- that was outstanding for the gentleman. This was a great experience to here from the best, thank you all 100%
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