Removing ink from baseballs

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by DICKTOWLE

NOTHING SHOWS, GET A BASEBALL, SIGN THE SWEET SPOT AND SEND TO ME i CAN SHOW YOU BETTER. DR

Are you saying the area of the removed signature would not show up under a black light?

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Are you saying the area of the removed signature would not show up under a black light?

Richard,

Here I am going on about the VSC! Yes, a simple black light test would prove extremely interesting. If chemicals are involved (which they most assuredly are), picking up a $20 black light would likely do the trick.

Dick,

I beg you to reconsider offering this service, which will ultimately prove to create more problems for an area of the hobby which does not need any further negativity cast upon it. Stain removal and signature removal are two vastly different concepts, and thus both subscribe to a different set of mores. Signature removal will only inevitably serve to pad the wallets of scam artists, despite your good intentions. If your motives are purely for the betterment of the hobby, then it should be easy to understand my standpoint on this (and I make my living selling autographs).

[DICKTOWLE]

Originally Posted by JBirkholm

Richard,

Here I am going on about the VSC! Yes, a simple black light test would prove extremely interesting. If chemicals are involved (which they most assuredly are), picking up a $20 black light would likely do the trick.

Dick,

I beg you to reconsider offering this service, which will ultimately prove to create more problems for an area of the hobby which does not need any further negativity cast upon it. Stain removal and signature removal are two vastly different concepts, and thus both subscribe to a different set of mores. Signature removal will only inevitably serve to pad the wallets of scam artists, despite your good intentions. If your motives are purely for the betterment of the hobby, then it should be easy to understand my standpoint on this (and I make my living selling autographs).

VERY GOOD POINT- QUESTION-- THE ISSUE IS TOO REMOVE FRAUD ON BASEBALLS. A PERSON SPENDS A LOT OF MONEY ONLY TO FIND ONE SIGNATURE IS BAD AND NEEDS THE OTHER TO BE GOOD- WOULD I NOT WANT TO HELP HIM OR HER TO HAVE THE AUTOGRAPH THEY WANTED.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by DICKTOWLE

VERY GOOD POINT- QUESTION-- THE ISSUE IS TOO REMOVE FRAUD ON BASEBALLS. A PERSON SPENDS A LOT OF MONEY ONLY TO FIND ONE SIGNATURE IS BAD AND NEEDS THE OTHER TO BE GOOD- WOULD I NOT WANT TO HELP HIM OR HER TO HAVE THE AUTOGRAPH THEY WANTED.

Dick - you did not answer my question about the black light.
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[Peter_Spaeth]

In addition to his other talents Dick is showing an aptitude for evasiveness and answering by misdirection. So let's try again.

1. Will you remove a legitimate signature at a client's request to create a more valuable ball?
2. If you will only remove bad signatures, what sort of proof will you require that the signature to be removed is bad?
3. Will you do work for dealers?
4. Do you take creases out of cards?

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by DICKTOWLE

VERY GOOD POINT- QUESTION-- THE ISSUE IS TOO REMOVE FRAUD ON BASEBALLS. A PERSON SPENDS A LOT OF MONEY ONLY TO FIND ONE SIGNATURE IS BAD AND NEEDS THE OTHER TO BE GOOD- WOULD I NOT WANT TO HELP HIM OR HER TO HAVE THE AUTOGRAPH THEY WANTED.

Because you're "solving their problem" by doing something that, when placed in the wrong hands, could turn into yet another fraud. Say your customer decides to sell the Towlefied ball somewhere down the line. He sells it with full disclosure to somebody less reputable than himself. That person immediately sells it as an unblemished single-signed ball to an unsuspecting customer. The new owner takes it to PSA or JSA for authentication, only for them to find evidence of removal. Now Mr. Unsuspecting Customer is potentially out several hundred dollars because of the signature you removed. To reiterate from my previous posts, please don't add fuel to the fire. This hobby hardly needs another avenue to funnel future deceit.

[smokelessjoe]

Question: What if a big slab of goo is plastered across a Mantle signature, are we saying that it should not be removed?

Restorations, removals, replacements, legitimately happen all of the time with paintings, furniture, etc.. Should these services not be offered as well or are we saying that baseballs should be excluded from this category?