Even the so called good guys...ugly hobby?

[wonkaticket]

I have put some thought into how Kevin could get things by folks etc.

Kevin has reviewed cards for folks several people have claimed all was good with him etc.

But what if he had other plans for these cards he examined?

I'm also with Jeff really easy to put something out there Chan did it with the OP cards. It's easy to see what everyone's collecting interests are we make it public every day on here. An oddball Chase listed on eBay, a weird Type Card for Leon, a funky boxing item for Adam and so on.

Also there shouldn’t be a single collector after reading Kevin’s comments that shouldn’t be a little suspicious at the very least when reading Kevin's articles on his website especially the ones below...

http://www.alteredcards.com/flip.htm

http://www.alteredcards.com/flip2.htm

Why would anyone need to know how to forge a slip and or crack a slab without leaving signs of the slab being opened?

How is that good information to put out into the hobby?

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

How is that good information to put out into the hobby?

It's completely irresponsible.

It's one thing for him to create a passable fake flip as an example of how vulnerable the hobby may be, it's another to give instructions on how to do it.

Many people have slammed Kevin in the past for being about self promotion and not truly caring about the hobby. I believe this and his recent actions show they were right all along.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I assume the quote from Rob is authorized, but of course don't know for a fact.

Rob Lifson - President & Founder robertedwardauctions.com One of the most respected names in the hobby. Renowned for his ethics, integrity, experience and knowledge:

"I admire what Kevin Saucier is trying to do. He puts himself on the firing line even attempting to provide information to the public about card alterations. Some people don't like his work. It's not a very popular topic. The fact is card alteration is epidemic. Not everyone has to agree with Kevin about everything, and Kevin would be the first to agree with this. At the very least his work raises awareness among collectors; at the most his work has the potential to help save collectors real money. To those that suggest that Kevin is the problem, for even talking about card alterations and restoration and trying to educate the public about this serious issue - I say to them: the problem is that there are not ten Kevin Saucier's out there - learning, debating, comparing knowledge - and trying to help collectors avoid mistakes. I’m hoping he will continue in his efforts."

[calvindog]

Yeah, I wonder if Rob would stand behind that statement after reviewing Kevin's emails in which he admits fraud and targeting Net 54 board members? I'm guessing not.

Also, Peter, I'm curious: does Rob's aged testimonial somehow exculpate Kevin from his admissions in the email?
I'm certain not.