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I think the thinking is that pre-war was only a generation before the boomers, so when the boomers all returned to cards from the 50s as they got older, it wasn't much a leap for them to get curious about cards from the 30s, 40s, etc. especially when their fathers or grandfathers probably did see them play and had stories from life to share.

But for today's younger collectors, the heyday of their hobby memories are more in the 80s, 90s and early 2000s eras, which leave quite a distance between their collective memory and pre-war.

I have a son. As he gets older he'll hear stories about Don Mattingly and the 1996 Yankees. I won't have any stories about Mickey Mantle either, except maybe for seeing him at card shows in the early 90s when I was really young.
Yes but there's an awful lot of Gen X'ers like myself in Pre War, that's two or more generations before our time. My dad's father was born in 1920. So you have to go back three or more generations to get to T206 or Old Judge. I think people like yelling "The sky is falling"
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I think people like yelling "The sky is falling"
Probably more wishful thinking. If we all want it bad enough, prices will come down.
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Yes but there's an awful lot of Gen X'ers like myself in Pre War, that's two or more generations before our time. My dad's father was born in 1920. So you have to go back three or more generations to get to T206 or Old Judge. I think people like yelling "The sky is falling"

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Probably more wishful thinking. If we all want it bad enough, prices will come down.
And this.

My father was a teenager in the 1940s when he saw Babe Ruth on the street in New York and the Babe nodded hello to him. He never saw Ruth or Gehrig play but he saw DiMaggio's generation. They were long gone by the time I got baseball and cards in my consciousness. When I was ten I was crazy for cards of the stars then Hank Aaron, Dr. J, etc. When I was in my late twenties and able to finally spend on cards it was 1950s Topps and Bowman I'd coveted as a kid, followed by T, E, W and R cards. The contemporary is the gateway to the older. Same as it ever is and ever will be.
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Looks like Jonah has posted here before. An interesting thread.

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=362388
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Old 12-01-2025, 07:22 PM
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I guess he has been a bit of a vintage collector before this, and with some people who have complaints about his methods. Plus now I know the story behind why snowy got banned. He sure did ask for it.

I do think that there are a fair number of people who make a splash and buy a big card or two or three, with the hope to make some money on it. And maybe someday they really get into full blown collecting? I think there are fewer of those people who have a sizeable collection and run around buying commons and lesser stars from obscure prewar issues. So I guess I would draw a distinction there.

Although in this case, he kinda worked backwards, starting off collecting an obscure issue, and then selling it off to pick up a single big card.
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I guess he has been a bit of a vintage collector before this, and with some people who have complaints about his methods. Plus now I know the story behind why snowy got banned. He sure did ask for it.
I thought it was just theatrics and Travis would be back. I guess not.
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I can't even imagine being 26 and being able to spend that type of cash. Good for this dude. That's a HUGE get. I actually think it could double in value before long.
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Looks like Jonah has posted here before. An interesting thread.

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=362388
What a saga. Totally forgot about Snowman.
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What a saga. Totally forgot about Snowman.
After returning from my brief hiatus, I wasn't surprised that he was banned, but he clearly went of the rails. Was an interesting final nail in the coffin, to read, for sure.
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It's so funny to watch a bunch of old men pontificate about the future interests of younger generations as if they are a alien race we are trying to figure out. Humans are humans, and nothing has or will change from generation to generation, no matter how much we think the younger generation is so much lessor of a species than us.
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What a saga. Totally forgot about Snowman.
I know a lot of members didn't agree with Snow, but I do miss him on this forum. He is out there on other platforms.
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Yes but there's an awful lot of Gen X'ers like myself in Pre War, that's two or more generations before our time. My dad's father was born in 1920. So you have to go back three or more generations to get to T206 or Old Judge. I think people like yelling "The sky is falling"
I collected Canseco, Gooden, Mattingly, Bo, McGwire, etc. as a kid in the mid- to late-80s. Now I collect cards going back to 1886. All it took to get there was time, an interest in sports/U.S. history, and money. When I got that Jack Glasscock Allen & Ginter in hand for the first time, it changed everything for me. Hopefully subsequent generations have the same experience.
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Yes but there's an awful lot of Gen X'ers like myself in Pre War, that's two or more generations before our time. My dad's father was born in 1920. So you have to go back three or more generations to get to T206 or Old Judge. I think people like yelling "The sky is falling"
Well I'm only a decade or so younger than you and I was probably the only kid my age at any show looking at T206s and OJs. There weren't any peers for me. Everybody my age liked Griffey, which is probably why his UD rookie is so expensive now.

There are few of us. There may be more in the future but as a person who has collected their whole life, attended shows their whole life, there were never a lot of me. It's easy for me to see people of my generation coming back to Griffey, McGwire, Ichiro, etc. and it's even easy for me to see people my age getting into Ruth, Gehrig and Cobb.

But what I don't see in the future is an interest in type card collecting, in collecting lesser pre-war HOFers and I think a lot of the niche stuff we have now, like paying so strongly for an Art Whitney with Dog OJ or the premiums on the Shag or the Titus T206, is probably not the future of the hobby. I'm also unsure how much interest there will still be in complete sets in the future. Nobody really has any interest in complete sets now. I wonder if anyone ever completes, say, the newest 2025 Bowman Chrome first autograph set. I think cards like the tough T207s are nearing their end of hobby relevance.

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