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Old 05-14-2025, 12:37 PM
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Hello Trublubrucru, thanks for sending those pics. Excuse my ignorance, but regarding the text on the chart that reflects-.... His ##/##.#### off --- Can you advise, I'm assuming His is abbreviation for Histroy? Do you know what the text is referring to when it says "off" and then "name" ?
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Hello Trublubrucru, thanks for sending those pics. Excuse my ignorance, but regarding the text on the chart that reflects-.... His ##/##.#### off --- Can you advise, I'm assuming His is abbreviation for Histroy? Do you know what the text is referring to when it says "off" and then "name" ?

If you let me jump in here, I might be able to help. I also have the book.

"His" simply means exactly what it says: His (Tris Speaker's) bat. The date is the date the order was catalogued by H&B.

The name after that is simply the name of the player whose bat was used as a "template" for (in this case, Tris Speaker's bat). This was before H&B started assigning model numbers to a player's bat.

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Hello Trublubrucru, thanks for sending those pics. Excuse my ignorance, but regarding the text on the chart that reflects-.... His ##/##.#### off --- Can you advise, I'm assuming His is abbreviation for Histroy? Do you know what the text is referring to when it says "off" and then "name" ?
In these cases, the "his" refers to Tris Speaker as the model was made for him. When it says "off of" it means Tris Speaker had a bat made for himself off of another players bat. Typically players will take an existing model and make a slight change to it. The resulting bat is now "His model..."

Looking specifically at Speaker's records, there's a reference to "His 8/21/23 off Sheely, Earl". So Tris Speaker had an Earl Sheely bat that he returned to the factory for a slight modification. Could be a thinner or thicker handle, larger or smaller knob, larger circumference barrel, etc. The new model resulting from that change would then be referred to as "His 8/21/23" the original bat would have been side written with grease pencil and quite likely a lathe pattern bat would have been produced to use as a template for future orders.

I did also send you PM awhile back offering to help as I am fairly familiar with bats of this era since it's the main focus of my collection.
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