I may have to sue Fanatics or Fedex-UPDATED 5/8/25 AT END OF THREAD

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Pat R

I would bet that in most cases the fault is on the sender. When you mail a package signature confirmation you have to make sure you put no when asked if an electronic signature is ok because an electronic signature doesn't require the package to be signed for. You can also send packages signature receipt required and with that the person has to sign a receipt sent with the package and that gets sent back to the person that mailed the package.

If the sender allows electronic signature, the recipient still has to electronically sign. If they don't, the USPS is supposed to collect a signature. It sounds like in Justin's case, they don't. I've had the same experience. It's inconvenient for the carrier to have to ring the door, wait, and then when no one answers, fill out a slip and leave it.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If the sender allows electronic signature, the recipient still has to electronically sign. If they don't, the USPS is supposed to collect a signature. It sounds like in Justin's case, they don't. I've had the same experience. It's inconvenient for the carrier to have to ring the door, wait, and then when no one answers, fill out a slip and leave it.

I could be wrong but I think if you're signed up for electonic delivery the mail carrier can just use you're electronic signature that's stored in the USPS system
when they deliver the package.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Pat R

I could be wrong but I think if you're signed up for electonic delivery the mail carrier can just use you're electronic signature that's stored in the USPS system
when they deliver the package.

No, you have to actually apply the signature online to a specific package. It's not a blanket, in advance thing.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

No, you have to actually apply the signature online to a specific package. It's not a blanket, in advance thing.

That's how it's supposed to work but I got the impression that it's another one of those gray areas created by the pandemic that a mail carrier can exploit if they choose to but if the sender selects no electronic signature it takes away that option.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Pat R

That's how it's supposed to work but I got the impression that it's another one of those gray areas created by the pandemic that a mail carrier can exploit if they choose to but if the sender selects no electronic signature it takes away that option.

I wouldn't think the carrier knows they don't have to deliver a package personally unless the recipient actually applies the signature to the package, which generates some sort of message. I think carriers just leave things even knowing they are supposed to collect a signature.

[MJRaider]

Originally Posted by Pat R

I could be wrong but I think if you're signed up for electonic delivery the mail carrier can just use you're electronic signature that's stored in the USPS system
when they deliver the package.

Correct. I have it keyed on my Informed Delivery login and I just click if I want to add the electronic signature. If I don't, they will come knock on the door.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If the sender allows electronic signature, the recipient still has to electronically sign. If they don't, the USPS is supposed to collect a signature. It sounds like in Justin's case, they don't. I've had the same experience. It's inconvenient for the carrier to have to ring the door, wait, and then when no one answers, fill out a slip and leave it.

I think this is part of the case for my situation. It may also be slanted because my mailman has a walking route as our mailboxes are all porch or mail slots. If he doesn’t deliver it, they have to continue carrying the item until it’s time to walk back to the truck for a restock. I have a suspicion they are shedding weight as fast as possible.

Oh and Samosa4u you made me laugh pretty hard on that one, lol. I can see how someone could think that’s a lot and it did annoy me quite a bit just leaving it on the porch like that. However, when it’s your hobby and you are a retired competitive shooter, 2000 is about 4 trips to the range some months. It can get really expensive when I am practicing rifle or clays.