All Rise! INDEED!

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by John1941

Do you mean to say you'd take Ohtani over him as a complete player? I could see that, given Ohtani's pitching and relative youth - can't see preferring Ohtani as a hitter alone.

Originally Posted by packs

How come?

Ohtani is no slouch but his OPS+ last year during his 50/50 season was 189. He did lead the NL but when you look at Judge, his OPS+ was an otherworldly 223.

Very few people have posted an OPS+ over 200 and Judge was at 223. During his 62 homer season his OPS+ was also 210.

Judge has had the two monster seasons (and possibly another one going now) but the way I was thinking of it was, say you're starting a franchise right now: you have the choice between Judge and Ohtani, who are you taking? I'm taking Ohtani even without the pitching...more versatile, more consistently available and several years younger.

It's certainly debatable though, just my preference

[packs]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Judge has had the two monster seasons (and possibly another one going now) but the way I was thinking of it was, say you're starting a franchise right now: you have the choice between Judge and Ohtani, who are you taking? I'm taking Ohtani even without the pitching...more versatile, more consistently available and several years younger.

It's certainly debatable though, just my preference

To each their own for sure. I will say though it is really fun watching Judge play center when he’s out there. Not too many guys his size could do that.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by packs

To each their own for sure. I will say though it is really fun watching Judge play center when he’s out there. Not too many guys his size could do that.

He's definitely a giant (Yankee) out there!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Judge has had the two monster seasons (and possibly another one going now) but the way I was thinking of it was, say you're starting a franchise right now: you have the choice between Judge and Ohtani, who are you taking? I'm taking Ohtani even without the pitching...more versatile, more consistently available and several years younger.

It's certainly debatable though, just my preference

If you told me Ohtani is going to pitch again, I would take Judge, because I have no faith Ohtani will stay healthy as a pitcher.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If you told me Ohtani is going to pitch again, I would take Judge, because I have no faith Ohtani will stay healthy as a pitcher.

The Dodgers might feel the same. They are taking it almost absurdly slow with him.

[jthorst75]

[bk400]

Ohtani versus Judge to anchor a team is always a fun debate. I've had my share or beers at the bar discussing that one.

Here's my Mount Rushmore of Yankees.
In chronological order:

Gehrig
DiMaggio
Mickey Mantle
Derek Jeter

Honorable Mention: Babe Ruth, Yogi Berra and Mariano Rivera

Note that I value captaincies and WS rings more highly than individual stats, though individual stats are still important. Babe Ruth was stripped of his position as team captain for poor behavior, which in some ways is worse than never being a captain at all. After Gehrig died, the owner said there would never be another Yankee captain. That was the case until Steinbrenner bought the team. Jeter is the only modern captain in the HOF, and he has five rings.

[Exhibitman]

Both Judge and Ohtani are worth the money so far.

[bk400]

Yeah, f**king Ohtani. He had a decent night.