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Old 03-30-2025, 06:04 PM
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Just quit it. Do you think I made up that sequence of USPS offices above, where it has been delivered? I am sure the buyer has it by now and I do too.

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No I don’t believe you made anything up.

I didn’t see a delivery scan in that mess. 2nd, just because you posted that doesn’t mean it was the correct tracking information. Without the number and all origin and destination that was worthless. Furthermore, tracking information can be modified after the fact. Just because you see something now doesn’t mean it looked like that a couple weeks ago.
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Is this just about the money?
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I actually had a package end up missing in Aurora several years ago. I don't remember the other stops on the tour. The key to getting mine going in the right direction was communication between postmasters. My local guy and the postmaster in Aurora. James, if it is a USPS issue, you may find that your local postmaster may be the one you should be dealing with rather than the yahoos on this forum.

And for clarity, Leon you are not a yahoo.
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And for clarity, Leon you are not a wahoo.
THIS is a Wahoo, and he's about to smash one.
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And for clarity, Leon you are not a wahoo.
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No I don’t believe you made anything up.

I didn’t see a delivery scan in that mess. 2nd, just because you posted that doesn’t mean it was the correct tracking information. Without the number and all origin and destination that was worthless. Furthermore, tracking information can be modified after the fact. Just because you see something now doesn’t mean it looked like that a couple weeks ago.
That is because it hasn't been delivered yet.

I saw a picture of the package, the addresses on it, the USPS stamp and the tracking number. That is how I tracked it.

I don't think longtime members are going to do all of what you said over $15. What do you think?

This isn't a bizarre situation except for the craziness of the USPS. Otherwise, some minor miscommunications is all.
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That is because it hasn't been delivered yet.

I saw a picture of the package, the addresses on it, the USPS stamp and the tracking number. That is how I tracked it.

I don't think longtime members are going to do all of what you said over $15. What do you think?
I think anyone that withholds a tracking number over a $15 package has issues. Didn’t see an origin scan in there either. Should we assume it hasn’t been shipped?
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I think anyone that withholds a tracking number over a $15 package has issues. Didn’t see an origin scan in there either. Should we assume it hasn’t been shipped?
So all of that stuff I cut and pasted and you are asking if it shipped? Seriously? It looks like it's shipped about 15x!
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So all of that stuff I cut and pasted and you are asking if it shipped? Seriously? It looks like it's shipped about 15x!
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I think anyone that withholds a tracking number over a $15 package has issues. Didn’t see an origin scan in there either. Should we assume it hasn’t been shipped?
No. If Octavio said he sent the package, you should assume he sent it. Octavio has delivered thousands of cards on BST.



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No. If Octavio said he sent the package, you should assume he sent it. Octavio has delivered thousands of cards on BST.



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I don't give a flying fk if its over $1.50, refusing to promptly forward tracking information when asked is bad form to say the least. Seems like this long time board member just went out of his way to pick a fight that could have been defused in 15 seconds.
Exactly. Seems many are missing the whole point here, when they talk about $15, or whether the cards were shipped and/or will be delivered (see below).

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exactly. Barring a horrific accident, the cards are coming
This has nothing to do with the point. The point is that seller appears to have not provided the tracking number. That's not ok, regardless if the cards show up.
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But he did provide the tracking number in the picture he took. Leon told us that the picture shows the tracking number. So all of this is so much unnecessary drama over a typical transaction that was simply delayed in the mail.
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This has nothing to do with the point. The point is that seller appears to have not provided the tracking number.
No, the point of this 100+ post thread is that Leon is not a Wahoo, Sam Crawford was, and we miss Chief Wahoo.
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Exactly. Seems many are missing the whole point here, when they talk about $15, or whether the cards were shipped and/or will be delivered (see below).



This has nothing to do with the point. The point is that seller appears to have not provided the tracking number. That's not ok, regardless if the cards show up.
Au contraire counselor. Taking it reading comprehension is not your strong suit. Get those paralegals into OT!


And I quote from the 1st post.

"Tracking and a photo show delivery. Well, they did not come to me"


Apparently, the OP thought the tracking shows delivery, which it did not. This could be misconstrued, but he himself wrote the above sentence. Leading to the subsequent posts. Was it a photo of the tracking number? Who can tell. However, clearly his post says they were delivered elsewhere, followed up with not to him.

I don't believe they were delivered to anyone...yet.


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No. If Octavio said he sent the package, you should assume he sent it. Octavio has delivered thousands of cards on BST.



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On the USPS side I have had several cards take a LONG time to be delivered the last couple months both buying and selling.
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Did the buyer get that courtesy?

This has nothing to do with $15. It's just bizarre a seller would withhold that info from a buyer. I've yet to hear a straight answer to the question if the actual tracking number was provided to the buyer. And that causes red flags to go up. If it was provided, just say so and I have no issues.
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Did the buyer get that courtesy?

This has nothing to do with $15. It's just bizarre a seller would withhold that info from a buyer. I've yet to hear a straight answer to the question if the actual tracking number was provided to the buyer. And that causes red flags to go up. If it was provided, just say so and I have no issues.
Buyer and seller seem to be fine now. I am giving some grace as someone probably made an honest mistake. I see no worthwhile reason to drill either of these 2 good members about it.
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Buyer and seller seem to be fine now. I am giving some grace as someone probably made an honest mistake. I see no worthwhile reason to drill either of these 2 good members about it.
Ok. I take that as a no, seller didn't provide a tracking number. It's such a simple question no one seems willing to answer.
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Ok. I take that as a no, seller didn't provide a tracking number. It's such a simple question no one seems willing to answer.
I don't think that is the case but am not sure. I am not talking about it anymore.
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That is because it hasn't been delivered yet.

I saw a picture of the package, the addresses on it, the USPS stamp and the tracking number. That is how I tracked it.

I don't think longtime members are going to do all of what you said over $15. What do you think?

This isn't a bizarre situation except for the craziness of the USPS. Otherwise, some minor miscommunications is all.
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Ditto.
OP is all over the place. Starts with saying he’s out both the money and the cards, which he repeats more than once. Now he several times says its not about the money “who cares about the money?”, and calls people morons for thinking it has to do with money.

Says in post #19 “I do not believe he ever mailed it”, then later in #34 says “He seemed to think I was accusing him of never having mailed it, which is not the case”. Says in post #22 “How would you like getting ripped off?”.

Excuse me for thinking that the tracking number is a red herring here. If Seller had said he didn’t get a tracking number on this package or that he got one but somehow can’t find it but assuring buyer that the cards were packaged and sent, OP would still be bitching and moaning that he got ripped off on his great deal, even while acknowledging that seller is a longtime member here and that there are two sides to every story. Handled piss poorly IMO.
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You folks can analyze this all you want. Certain things were said by the OP BEFORE HE HAD THE FACTS. And with that, I am done with this. Hopefully the Post Office will one day deliver the $15 1948 Bowman cards.
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