Frank chance near mint condition. Help please

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

This entire thread reads like a real life example of the Fairy tale " The Kings New Clothes " lots of ohhs and ahhhs and dose the mark in back hurt the value. Until the word Reprint shows up....then it's he's a clown Bigfoot of course he knew.
This hobby suffers enough from fraud. How this was not shot down instantly on THIS BOARD..I cannot understand. How would you feel if some local shop owner was shown some of the early posts and bought them?
The Hobby is supposed to be fun and getting clipped is the exact opposite of fun. At least it is here on exit 132 on the NJ parkway.

These were blurry online photos posted by some anonymous new member. Having an item in hand is much different.

If someone has a hobby shop, they should either have the skill/experience to authenticate an incoming item or refrain from buying it.

As for not shooting this down right away, perhaps we're trying to not be the high-horse riding butt-hurt snowflakes Bigfoot accused us of being.

[asoriano]

Am I the only one who thinks they might be real? If not, they're decent fakes.

[scottglevy]

Originally Posted by asoriano

Am I the only one who thinks they might be real? If not, they're decent fakes.

IMO they are far superior to most reprints. For instance the name uses the proper typeface and coloring - which is unusual. However, reviewing the admittedly fuzzy pics - I simply can’t imagine these to be genuine. Certain aspects of the cards such as coloring or 50/50 all around centering is just not aligned with genuine T206 reality.

[ullmandds]

The t3 certainly is fake.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

The t3 certainly is fake.

The owner/seller has been researching these cards, and the card you refer to is a "big card."

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by Mark17

The owner/seller has been researching these cards, and the card you refer to is a "big card."

"Big Card" is how collectors from "City" refer to T3's

[steve B]

Does anyone know the origin of that idea that grading companies will steal the card/coin/stamp and replace it with a common one or reprint?

I have to think it happened at some point in the past, but don't remember ever hearing about it as an actual event*

*being different from the occasional losing of a submission that happens.

[Bdt1981]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

"Big Card" is how collectors from "City" refer to T3's

Actually I'm not a collector. That's the reason for my ignorance bro. Lol... Mr big card collector man.

[bigfanNY]

Originally Posted by Eric72

These were blurry online photos posted by some anonymous new member. Having an item in hand is much different.

Are you saying that you could not identify the cards as reprints from the original photos? Then why offer any opinion? Unless as I suggested $$

If someone has a hobby shop, they should either have the skill/experience to authenticate an incoming item or
refrain from buying it.

So Not everyone has the ability to identify the reprints but many on this board do and did. But wishy washy statements don't help and could sway someone to buy. I
personally would not be happy if I did that. Some would
say buyer beware. I can see both points.

As for not shooting this down right away, perhaps we're trying to not be the high-horse riding butt-hurt
snowflakes Bigfoot accused us of being.

As for your last point simply refraining from high- horse riding butt hurt snowflake comments should eliminate the issue..not that I have seen you make any..

Hope this helps
J

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

Are you saying that you could not identify the cards as reprints from the original photos? Then why offer any opinion? Unless as I suggested $$

Correct. I cannot definitively state the cards are reprints from the photos provided. I thought it would helpful to engage the OP, with an eye towards getting better (clearer) pictures.

The following is not directed at you. I'm just putting it out there, in case anyone is unclear:

1. I don't know the OP
2. I have no financial interest in the items pictured in this thread