MLB wants Dodgers(Ohtani) vs Yankees(Judge) - NFL/Goodell helped the Chiefs

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Well the crook Goodell did it again. How bad were the Refs in that game, at one point it was 6 penalties to 1 (Chiefs did refuse 2, so stats showed 4 to 1, but those 2 penalties were called in case the Chiefs didn't make the play), but 6 to 1!!!!!.........an unbelievable terrble spot on 4th down that gave the Chiefs the ball instead of Buffalo the 1st down, not to mention the bad spot on third down. and replay booth 2 reviews that should have gone Buffalo's way but went the Chiefs way, big surprise. Sorry Buffalo you got hosed again. Goodell gets his Chiefs in again. And I'm no Buffalo fan and didn't bet it, just a neutral observer, the NFL is a joke!

Because of the insane money that mere mortals can't even comprehend, and now legalized gambling on every sport, do you seriously think it's not fixed? Forget the Black Sox, Hal Chase and Pete Rose. That's ancient kiddie stuff. It was pre-determined that KC was going to the Super Bowl, and they will win it. Again. They are the NFL's poster boys. Just like the Dodgers in baseball. Once it's fixed, and it clearly is, nothing can stop it. Too much money.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by jingram058

Because of the insane money that mere mortals can't even comprehend, and now legalized gambling on every sport, do you seriously think it's not fixed? Forget the Black Sox, Hal Chase and Pete Rose. That's ancient kiddie stuff. It was pre-determined that KC was going to the Super Bowl, and they will win it. Again. They are the NFL's poster boys. Just like the Dodgers in baseball. Once it's fixed, and it clearly is, nothing can stop it. Too much money.

The Allen first down was egregious. That call wouldn’t have gone against the Chiefs if it were the other way. Fact.

[Shoeless Moe]

The Jomboy breakdown of both first downs....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs-L3jODWdE

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

all of you conspiracy theorists and yet nobody has explained to me why the other owners go along with it. You do all realize that the "NFL" and "MLB" is made up of the owners and that the "League" including the commissioners serve at the owner's pleasure.

So explain to me really slowly what super competitive alpha male agrees to let some team besides his win the championship every year. Oh and you basically have to convince ALL of them because if you don't one of them will blow the whistle.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

all of you conspiracy theorists and yet nobody has explained to me why the other owners go along with it. You do all realize that the "NFL" and "MLB" is made up of the owners and that the "League" including the commissioners serve at the owner's pleasure.

So explain to me really slowly what super competitive alpha male agrees to let some team besides his win the championship every year. Oh and you basically have to convince ALL of them because if you don't one of them will blow the whistle.

Private deals are routinely brokered by Goodell and certain owners on many issues. Naive to think otherwise in my opinion.

[D. Bergin]

NFL, like the NBA protects it's "Stars". In the NFL, that essentially boils down to about 3 or 4 veteran QB's a year that get special treatment.

That's essentially the long and the short of it.

I'm a little jealous because the Giants haven't had that type of protected QB in like.....well......ever.

Even Eli never really got any special treatment. Peyton certainly did, but not Eli.

Mahomes, let's be honest, has gotten really good at baiting the refs. I think he's been watching a lot of James Harden footage lately.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

NFL, like the NBA protects it's "Stars". In the NFL, that essentially boils down to about 3 or 4 veteran QB's a year that get special treatment.

That's essentially the long and the short of it.

I'm a little jealous because the Giants haven't had that type of protected QB in like.....well......ever.

Even Eli never really got any special treatment. Peyton certainly did, but not Eli.

Mahomes, let's be honest, has gotten really good at baiting the refs. I think he's been watching a lot of James Harden footage lately.

There's a pretty big difference between saying certain players tend to get favorable calls (which is true in all sports) and saying that the leagues are fixing games to make sure certain teams win championships.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by jayshum

There's a pretty big difference between saying certain players tend to get favorable calls (which is true in all sports) and saying that the leagues are fixing games to make sure certain teams win championships.

Agree

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Private deals are routinely brokered by Goodell and certain owners on many issues. Naive to think otherwise in my opinion.

So you're saying Goodell made some kind of deal with the Chiefs owner to make sure calls always go their way and none of the other owners have figured it out?

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by jayshum

So you're saying Goodell made some kind of deal with the Chiefs owner to make sure calls always go their way and none of the other owners have figured it out?

I think it can be made clear to refs in direct and indirect ways that many millions of not billions are at stake and when in doubt, no first down for the chiefs opponent.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Carter08

I think it can be made clear to refs in direct and indirect ways that many millions of not billions are at stake and when in doubt, no first down for the chiefs opponent.

What billions, and to whom? How are the league as an entity (and again, in reality it's not even it's own entity, it's an extension of the owners) and the uninvolved owners in particular going to make more money off of one result than another? If you're claiming organized crime, that's a lot different than saying "the league." though I'm not sure I buy that either.

I don't buy legalized gambling as the villain because they don't make their money on outcomes they make it on the line. They're not trying to "score" they just want their juice. Lines don't change because the book decides that they suddenly like one team more, they change to try and get the money wagered even on both teams, because then the profit is assured.

It's the same question I ask for any conspiracy theory. How do the people you're accusing benefit? At least if you're saying crime you have an answer for me.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

What billions, and to whom? How are the league as an entity (and again, in reality it's not even it's own entity, it's an extension of the owners) and the uninvolved owners in particular going to make more money off of one result than another? If you're claiming organized crime, that's a lot different than saying "the league." though I'm not sure I buy that either.

I don't buy legalized gambling as the villain because they don't make their money on outcomes they make it on the line. They're not trying to "score" they just want their juice. Lines don't change because the book decides that they suddenly like one team more, they change to try and get the money wagered even on both teams, because then the profit is assured.

It's the same question I ask for any conspiracy theory. How do the people you're accusing benefit? At least if you're saying crime you have an answer for me.

Mahomes is the face of the NFL. Good for the brand to keep him in. More importantly, the Chiefs bring with them an army of Swift fans that otherwise don’t care about football. They would not tune in for the Bills.

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

all of you conspiracy theorists and yet nobody has explained to me why the other owners go along with it. You do all realize that the "NFL" and "MLB" is made up of the owners and that the "League" including the commissioners serve at the owner's pleasure.

So explain to me really slowly what super competitive alpha male agrees to let some team besides his win the championship every year. Oh and you basically have to convince ALL of them because if you don't one of them will blow the whistle.

All it takes is massive amounts of money.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

all of you conspiracy theorists and yet nobody has explained to me why the other owners go along with it. You do all realize that the "NFL" and "MLB" is made up of the owners and that the "League" including the commissioners serve at the owner's pleasure.

So explain to me really slowly what super competitive alpha male agrees to let some team besides his win the championship every year. Oh and you basically have to convince ALL of them because if you don't one of them will blow the whistle.

Why do you think the owners are in it, it's all Goodell. Pretty simple.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Why do you think the owners are in it, it's all Goodell. Pretty simple.

Because Goodell is the owners' lackey, not the other way around. There is no all-powerful "League." This mysterious force that somehow makes more money if Taylor swift sells more Travis Kelce Jerseys. There is a group of owners who hire some dude to protect their interests.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Because Goodell is the owners' lackey, not the other way around. There is no all-powerful "League." This mysterious force that somehow makes more money if Taylor swift sells more Travis Kelce Jerseys. There is a group of owners who hire some dude to protect their interests.

Some lackey, he makes well over 63 million a year in salary (that was his 2019 salary), not mention anything he gets under the table. But that's pretty good money for a lackey.


EDIT TO ADD - shit he makes more than Mahomes

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Some lackey, he makes well over 63 million a year in salary (that was his 2019 salary), not mention anything he gets under the table. But that's pretty good money for a lackey.


EDIT TO ADD - shit he makes more than Mahomes

Never said he wasn't an obscenely well-paid lackey, but he has only the power the owners give him and he answers to them. He's a lackey.

When it came to getting rid of Dan Snyder the owners did it because Goodell doesn't have the power to oust one of his bosses.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Never said he wasn't an obscenely well-paid lackey, but he has only the power the owners give him and he answers to them. He's a lackey.

When it came to getting rid of Dan Snyder the owners did it because Goodell doesn't have the power to oust one of his bosses.

Ok so he is like a GM to the owners, but as GM, or Well paid NFL Lackey, his job is about results and increased revenue. Owners are like YOU, make us money, we don't care how. You want to continue making $63 million a year, make us money or we'll replace you. All about the almighty dollar.