MLB wants Dodgers(Ohtani) vs Yankees(Judge) - NFL/Goodell helped the Chiefs

[packs]

If I’m following you this was planned so that MLB can broadcast more games in the series. But why would anyone worry if it’s fixed?

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by jayshum

The Dodgers had the best record in the NL (and best record in baseball) while the Yankees had the best AL record ( and 3rd best record in baseball). I don't want to see either team win, but maybe the fact that they're both pretty good teams has more to do with the results than some big conspiracy.

The last time the 2 best record teams in each league met in the WS was 2013.

So you can't always say the 2 best will meet each other, however with a little help from MLB (taking a play out of that crook Goodell's playbook) still pretty sure it will happen this year, no matter how hard the Yankees try and choke it away.

MLB tipped it's hand when they had a Postseason commercial featuring ONLY Judge and Ohtani, they aired that too soon (in the first round). Only the smart people (like me) caught that.

But for now let's just enjoy....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHvZFUaptSs

[etsmith]

It's unfortunate but not surprising that the conspiracy nutballs will also be spouting ridiculous theories about sports. To them everything is conspiracy. They need a mental health check.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

The last time the 2 best record teams in each league met in the WS was 2013.

So you can't always say the 2 best will meet each other, however with a little help from MLB (taking a play out of that crook Goodell's playbook) still pretty sure it will happen this year, no matter how hard the Yankees try and choke it away.

MLB tipped it's hand when they had a Postseason commercial featuring ONLY Judge and Ohtani, they aired that too soon (in the first round). Only the smart people (like me) caught that.

But for now let's just enjoy....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHvZFUaptSs

I don't get the point. The two most popular players heading into the playoffs, why not feature them in a commercial?

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I don't get the point. The two most popular players heading into the playoffs, why not feature them in a commercial?

I don't recall seeing any commercials the past 10-20 years only showing 2 players when talking about the postseason. You have all these teams in the post season and you show only 2 players.

Why not show Bryce Harper, he's at least as popular as Judge and Ohtani, if not moreso.

It was just a small piece of the puzzle. Then came the terrible calls in the Yankees first playoff game all going their way, the next piece of the puzzle, very bad call favoring the Dodgers in their first game, yet another piece..

We'll see if either of the 2 remaining Series get close enough and then we'll see the calls.

Most of you are acting like I said EVERY call is going to go for the Dodgers and Yankees, never said that. Let's just keep on watching, and for those who took my advice when I said bet the Dodgers and Yankees to make it to the Series you're welcome, enjoy your extra cash, MLB will be doing the same.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

I don't recall seeing any commercials the past 10-20 years only showing 2 players when talking about the postseason. You have all these teams in the post season and you show only 2 players.

Why not show Bryce Harper, he's at least as popular as Judge and Ohtani, if not moreso.

It was just a small piece of the puzzle. Then came the terrible calls in the Yankees first playoff game all going their way, the next piece of the puzzle, very bad call favoring the Dodgers in their first game, yet another piece..

We'll see if either of the 2 remaining Series get close enough and then we'll see the calls.

Most of you are acting like I said EVERY call is going to go for the Dodgers and Yankees, never said that. Let's just keep on watching, and for those who took my advice when I said bet the Dodgers and Yankees to make it to the Series you're welcome, enjoy your extra cash, MLB will be doing the same.

Judge and Ohtani are the respective megastars of each league this season. Nobody else was close. This isn't hard to understand, it doesn't signal a conspiracy.

[packs]

The problem with what you’re saying is that if the Yankees win you’ll claim you knew it all along and if the Yankees lose you’ll talk about how they choked. Both things can’t be true.

Also the ad you’re talking about came out after the Phillies had been eliminated. That might be why Harper wasn’t featured. Or there could be something larger at play.

[etsmith]

It sounds like Moe is the kind of person who believes we never landed on the moon and that the 2020 election was stolen.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by etsmith

It sounds like Moe is the kind of person who believes we never landed on the moon and that the 2020 election was stolen.

Wrong. But nice try bringing in things that have nothing to do with baseball. Stick to baseball genius.

And Packs nice try stating the the Judge Ohtani commercial was when the Phillies were out of the Playoffs, wrong!.......look at the date I started this thread, and I mentioned the commercial, were the Phillies in the Playoffs?.....yes there were.

Did anyone notice the brutal call in the bottom of the 9th to the Indians lead off hitter with the 3-2 count that resulted in strike 3 rather than ball 4?

I'm not saying I'm just saying.

[packs]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ6F...ssports.com%2F

This MLB commercial simultaneously predicts every team to win, just to cover all bases and all scenarios. I thought you might enjoy it.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Wrong. But nice try bringing in things that have nothing to do with baseball. Stick to baseball genius.

And Packs nice try stating the the Judge Ohtani commercial was when the Phillies were out of the Playoffs, wrong!.......look at the date I started this thread, and I mentioned the commercial, were the Phillies in the Playoffs?.....yes there were.

Did anyone notice the brutal call in the bottom of the 9th to the Indians lead off hitter with the 3-2 count that resulted in strike 3 rather than ball 4?

I'm not saying I'm just saying.

Yes, that 3-2 call confirms you're right. All season long, no other call like that has been made.

[Shoeless Moe]

I'm glad Darling and Francouer called it out as well.

Just a terrible call at once again the 9th inning of the Yankees opponent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd-NnXofNOI

Go to the 14:15 mark (if it doesn't start there).

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Did anyone notice the brutal call in the bottom of the 9th to the Indians lead off hitter with the 3-2 count that resulted in strike 3 rather than ball 4?

I'm not saying I'm just saying.

Sure, should have been a ball, but it was about 1 inch off the corner and people somehow always forget the umpires don't have a convenient perfectly drawn box on their TV screen when they're calling balls and strikes.

Judge gets about 5 of those calls per game against him.

Just go to robot umps behind the plate, and this all goes away........as long as the same people complaining about these types of calls, aren't also up on their high horse about the "sanctity of the game" if it ever becomes a reality.

[D. Bergin]

I think baseball is easily the cleanest of the various major sports as far as officiating goes.

It's just a simpler game to call, and instant replay and added pressure on the umps to have more consistent strike zones in the last 15-20 years or so, have made the officiating more accurate then it used to be.

There's still crappy umps behind the plate from time to time, but I think people forget that it used to be way worse and more arbitrary from crew to crew back in the "good old days".

NFL Football is such a bang-bang sport and lots of the penalty calls are so subjective, it's enough to want to rip your hair out several times a game, even on a well called game, while certain star QB's do seem to get preferential treatment on certain types of calls.

NBA Basketball seems the most suss to me. I don't think games are fixed for teams per se, but I've seen enough playoff series through the years that you would have a hard time convincing me the NBA wasn't engaged in trying to extend series to as many games as possible in order to maximize ticket and TV revenue. The swings in momentum from the standpoint of the refs calls from game to game would just seem wild at times. That said, I don't think it happens as much now, as it did 5 or more years ago.

I haven't watched NHL hockey religiously in a very long time, for me to give a great opinion on how it's called nowadays. Just a simple interference penalty at an inopportune time could swing the momentum of a game, but I don't remember being too pissed off at unfair officiating when I was following hockey more intensely (just at how much the Whalers usually sucked). Maybe somebody else can chime in on this.

[Shoeless Moe]

1 for 1

Dodgers should make it 2 for 2 tomorrow.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

1 for 1

Dodgers should make it 2 for 2 tomorrow.

Who was favored to win the AL?

[John1941]

Most of the close calls went to the Guardians this game. The Yankees won this one by pure slugging.

Speaking of which - as a young Yankees fan I am so excited!!!!! I know most of you folks have seen the Yankees in the WS countless times and are sick of it, but the Yankee haven't been in the WS since I was a toddler. I'm absolutely psyched.

[packs]

The team MLB hired to write the ALCS deserves an Emmy. They could have played it cool but instead they penned in a 10th inning home run to send the Yankees to the series. I just hope the Yankees know none of it is real or they might do something foolish like try to re-sign Soto or pick up Luke Weaver’s option.

[Carter08]

I don’t think it’s crazy to think that umpires tend to have a slight bias to long-established star pitchers on great teams and referees tend to have a slight bias to the better teams.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Carter08

I don’t think it’s crazy to think that umpires tend to have a slight bias to long-established star pitchers on great teams and referees tend to have a slight bias to the better teams.

That's quite the generalization.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

That's quite the generalization.

Do you even watch football to comment? Asking because your posts don’t slow down during NFL games.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by John1941

Most of the close calls went to the Guardians this game. The Yankees won this one by pure slugging.

Completely agree, this game was 100% good. Soto is a beast.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Do you even watch football to comment? Asking because your posts don’t slow down during NFL games.

hahahahahahaha!!!!!


Take 5 Pete

[Shoeless Moe]

Well I went 2 for 2. "Shocker" That's called batting a thousand in baseball.

Good job and congrats to MLB.......um.......I mean the Dodgers.

Some definite funny business propelled the Yankees forward in both rounds. I've mentioned all that previously, no need to re-hash.

I didn't watch much of the Dodgers vs the Mets (I don't get FS1), listened to some of it on the radio, but beating the Mets 9-0, 8-0, 10-2 and 10-4 they didn't needed any help, Series was never in doubt. That helps.

One call I recall in Game 1 vs Padres was questionable, but didn't watch the rest of that Series either. Mostly 'cuz I knew the Dodgers would advance all the way. They would have gotten help had they needed it, no doubt.

I do know EVERY "expert" on ESPN.com picked the Padres over the Dodgers, I believe it was 8 different "experts", not sure why NONE dissented. To me it was obvious Dodgers were advancing, MLB didn't want the Padres, they wanted the Dodgers.

Just surprised I was the only one who saw this.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Yes, the fix was in, "no doubt." And you alone of the entire world saw it, imagine that! LOL.

[samosa4u]

Wow!! We're having a Dodgers/Yankees WS, people !! That's freaking insane !! The last time they met in the WS was back in ... 1981 ??? Shit! I wasn't even around then!!

I watched many Dodgers games and they're hitting HR after HR after HR. Their pitching has been nearly perfect as well. What does any of this have to do with the MLB or the officiating?? This is an elite team, period.

Imagine what will happen next season when Ohtani starts pitching again??

[Balticfox]

So a team that bores me against a team I despise....

Go Dodgers!

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

I do know EVERY "expert" on ESPN.com picked the Padres over the Dodgers, I believe it was 8 different "experts", not sure why NONE dissented. To me it was obvious Dodgers were advancing, MLB didn't want the Padres, they wanted the Dodgers.

No one dissented because three weeks ago the Dodgers pitching staff was the biggest question mark in the entire playoff picture and the Padres were white hot. Down 2-1 to the Padres the talk of baseball was if Dave Roberts was on the hot seat. What he did in the next 8 games is arguably one of the best managerial jobs in years going 6-2 and winning two series while navigating 4 bullpen games. The starters they do have were giant question marks and struggled down the regular season stretch. If you just look at the payroll, then yeah they were clear favorites. If you watched the last 4-5 weeks of the season then Philly, San Diego, and the Mets were all playing much better baseball in the National League.

Originally Posted by samosa4u

Imagine what will happen next season when Ohtani starts pitching again??

I'd argue that the Dodger's IL alone would be (if healthy) the best pitching staff since Atlanta's Heyday.

SP - Shohei Ohtani
SP - Tyler Glasnow
SP - Clayton Kershaw
SP - Tony Gonsolin
SP - River Ryan
SP - Dustin May
SP - Gavin Stone
RP- Joe Kelly
RP - Brusdar Gatarol
RP - Alex Vesia
RP - Michael Grove
RP - Kyle Hurt

[etsmith]

The two best teams won as they should. No conspiracy, but some people see conspiracy everywhere.

[packs]

Once again the bulk of a World Series bound Yankees roster is made up of savvy trades and home grown players:

Traded for:
Soto, Chisholm, Clay Holmes, Mark Leiter Jr.

Claimed off Waivers / Traded for Cash:
LUKE WEAVER, Tim Hill, Jake Cousins

Have Only Played for the Yankees:
Judge, Volpe, Wells, Schmidt, Gil, Gleyber among others

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yes, the fix was in, "no doubt."

FINALLY we agree.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

No one dissented because three weeks ago the Dodgers pitching staff was the biggest question mark in the entire playoff picture and the Padres were white hot. Down 2-1 to the Padres the talk of baseball was if Dave Roberts was on the hot seat. What he did in the next 8 games is arguably one of the best managerial jobs in years going 6-2 and winning two series while navigating 4 bullpen games. The starters they do have were giant question marks and struggled down the regular season stretch. If you just look at the payroll, then yeah they were clear favorites. If you watched the last 4-5 weeks of the season then Philly, San Diego, and the Mets were all playing much better baseball in the National League.






I'd argue that the Dodger's IL alone would be (if healthy) the best pitching staff since Atlanta's Heyday.

SP - Shohei Ohtani
SP - Tyler Glasnow
SP - Clayton Kershaw
SP - Tony Gonsolin
SP - River Ryan
SP - Dustin May
SP - Gavin Stone
RP- Joe Kelly
RP - Brusdar Gatarol
RP - Alex Vesia
RP - Michael Grove
RP - Kyle Hurt

Yes, it's an embarrasment of riches......pretty sure the Dodgers bought the 2024 Title, should be confirmed in a week or so.

"The club also signed starting pitcher Tyler Glasnow to a five-year, $136 million extension after acquiring him from the Tampa Bay Rays, putting their total offseason spending close to $1.18 billion."

Yankees are lucky many of these pitchers are out or they'd have ZERO chance.

If Yankees can get lucky and have Freddie Freeman also miss or play injured they'll have a slight chance, but if he plays and plays well it should be over fairly quick.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Yes, it's an embarrasment of riches......pretty sure the Dodgers bought the 2024 Title.

"The club also signed starting pitcher Tyler Glasnow to a five-year, $136 million extension after acquiring him from the Tampa Bay Rays, putting their total offseason spending close to $1.18 billion."

Yankees are lucky many of these pitchers are out or they'd have ZERO chance.

If Yankees can get lucky and have Freddie Freeman also miss or play injured they'll have a slight chance, but if he plays and plays well it should be over fairly quick.

Surely MLB wants it to go 7 and will make that happen, no? Come on, man, having gotten what they want, the conspiracy must continue, look at all the money each game makes.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by etsmith

The two best teams won as they should. No conspiracy....

True. Both the Yankees and the Dodgers had the best record in their respective Leagues during the regular season and redemonstrated their superiority in the playoffs. Not that I was happy to see that but....

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Surely MLB wants it to go 7 and will make that happen, no? Come on, man, having gotten what they want, the conspiracy must continue, look at all the money each game makes.

Possible....you'll have to watch those close calls when the game & series is on the line. Should be no funny business in Games 1 & 2, but anything is possible as it gets later.

It explains why no obvious Yankee calls in Game 5 at Cleveland, MLB would have been fine if it went back to NY. But with games on TBS & FS1, instead of the major networks....eh...yah know.....it didn't matter a whole lot.

[Shoeless Moe]

Pete, I know you are a music man.

Here is the theme song for this Postseason for the Yankees and Dodgers.

Please substitute "MLB" for "My Friends"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXV4WyQMHFM

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Pete, I know you are a music man.

Here is the theme song for this Postseason for the Yankees and Dodgers.

Please substitute "MLB" for "My Friends"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXV4WyQMHFM

Let's see.
Would you believe in ball four called a strike?
Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by etsmith

The two best teams won as they should. No conspiracy, but some people see conspiracy everywhere.

I remember the hand wringing outrage that two teams with the worst record made it to the World Series last year to the point of MLB considering changing the rules to make the best teams end up in the World Series, while there might not be a grand conspiracy, there is definitely a financial interest in, and motivation to, make the popular teams end up on top. Let's not fool ourselves that there isn't an agenda to make the WS as profitable as possible.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Yankees are lucky many of these pitchers are out or they'd have ZERO chance.

If Yankees can get lucky and have Freddie Freeman also miss or play injured they'll have a slight chance, but if he plays and plays well it should be over fairly quick.

Who'd a thunk, hmmmmm

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Who'd a thunk, hmmmmm

You might try it sometime then.

[Shoeless Moe]

Anyone else notice the 2 really bad calls on Tommy Edman in the bottom of the 10th?

Good news for Yankees fans if the Yankees keep getting this awful calls late it might make the difference of a win or 2 for them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYSosH7mhLw

1:20 mark

[John1941]

Anyone else notice the heinous strike calls against the Yankees in the 1st inning?

The home plate umpire was bad, but he wasn't particularly partial. There's no strategic sense in waiting until the 10th inning to start ruling towards the Yankees.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by John1941

Anyone else notice the heinous strike calls against the Yankees in the 1st inning?

The home plate umpire was bad, but he wasn't particularly partial. There's no strategic sense in waiting until the 10th inning to start ruling towards the Yankees.

Growing up in the NYC area, I learned decades ago that the Yankees can never lose an important game where they weren't obviously screwed by the umpires. They are pre-ordained to win every game. Has to be an unfair third party agent scheming against them. Every single time.

[John1941]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Growing up in the NYC area, I learned decades ago that the Yankees can never lose an important game where they weren't obviously screwed by the umpires. They are pre-ordained to win every game. Has to be an unfair third party agent scheming against them. Every single time.

Regardless of the validity of this as a description of NYC fans, I'm unsure how this fits in as a reply to my comment. (Maybe I'm just reading too much into your reply.) I brought up the calls against the Yankees just to show there were calls against both sides - as I said, I don't think the umpire was partial.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by John1941

Regardless of the validity of this as a description of NYC fans, I'm unsure how this fits in as a reply to my comment. (Maybe I'm just reading too much into your reply.) I brought up the calls against the Yankees just to show there were calls against both sides - as I said, I don't think the umpire was partial.

I did notice his bad calls throughout yes. Game 1 of the World Series and he was the best MLB could do?

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

And I could care less about the Royals but they got screwed more than a few times yesterday.

You could care less? You're logically challenged. We might have taught you better up here in Canada.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

If Yankees can get lucky and have Freddie Freeman also miss or play injured they'll have a slight chance, but if he plays and plays well it should be over fairly quick.

exactly

[mr_luck07]

Early in the game I thought they were gonna have to go back to L.A. but they pulled it off. I'm neutral though I live in L.A. Still, I'm glad for the Dodgers in part that spectre of the 2020 win hanging over their head that they couldn't get it done in a full season.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

If you are a fan of either of these 2 teams you should be happy, not only do you have a good team, but you have MLB doing all they can to get these 2 teams in the World Series.

You want to make a little money keep betting these 2 in the Playoffs until they both are in the WS.

Some terrible calls favoring the Yankees and Dodgers yesterday and I expect that to continue until both are there. Similar to that crook Goodell getting the Chiefs & Taylor Swift to the Super Bowl last year. It's all about the money/TV viewers these days, not really a shocker though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw5AlGaw4ng

And I could care less about the Royals but they got screwed more than a few times yesterday. Terrible strike 3 call on Witt in the 9th, wasn't even in the zone, but umps know who to give the calls too.

Also, any notice the MLB commercial with just Judge and Ohtani yesterday. Why a commercial featuring only those 2?.....um.....I know why.

Well get ready for Godzilla vs King Kong. Feel for you fans of the other teams in the Playoffs gonna take a monster effort to beat one of these teams, 'cuz you ain't getting many calls.

Well the crook Goodell did it again. How bad were the Refs in that game, at one point it was 6 penalties to 1 (Chiefs did refuse 2, so stats showed 4 to 1, but those 2 penalties were called in case the Chiefs didn't make the play), but 6 to 1!!!!!.........an unbelievable terrble spot on 4th down that gave the Chiefs the ball instead of Buffalo the 1st down, not to mention the bad spot on third down. and replay booth 2 reviews that should have gone Buffalo's way but went the Chiefs way, big surprise. Sorry Buffalo you got hosed again. Goodell gets his Chiefs in again. And I'm no Buffalo fan and didn't bet it, just a neutral observer, the NFL is a joke!

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Well the crook Goodell did it again. How bad were the Refs in that game, at one point it was 6 penalties to 1 (Chiefs did refuse 2, so stats showed 4 to 1, but those 2 penalties were called in case the Chiefs didn't make the play), but 6 to 1!!!!!.........an unbelievable terrble spot on 4th down that gave the Chiefs the ball instead of Buffalo the 1st down, not to mention the bad spot on third down. and replay booth 2 reviews that should have gone Buffalo's way but went the Chiefs way, big surprise. Sorry Buffalo you got hosed again. Goodell gets his Chiefs in again. And I'm no Buffalo fan and didn't bet it, just a neutral observer, the NFL is a joke!

Because of the insane money that mere mortals can't even comprehend, and now legalized gambling on every sport, do you seriously think it's not fixed? Forget the Black Sox, Hal Chase and Pete Rose. That's ancient kiddie stuff. It was pre-determined that KC was going to the Super Bowl, and they will win it. Again. They are the NFL's poster boys. Just like the Dodgers in baseball. Once it's fixed, and it clearly is, nothing can stop it. Too much money.