This Probably Won't Go Anywhere, But...

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by campyfan39

You are correct. I don't have any slabbed cards and any that I obtain I crack out. when i bought this card a long tie ago, it was a PS3 with no qualifier.



My contention is that they have had the card since Tuesday morning and have yet to "authenticate" it. I was able to get someone on the phone today to find out what was going on. There was not any question that the card is authentic, but they claim there was a "light stain" on the back that was not specifically listed in the description. There is no stain.



The messaged the buyer and he said he reviewed all of the large pictures I provided and he wanted them to hurry up and ship him the card.



So I guess if you list any card more than $250 on ebay, just having 8 pictures is not enough. You have to inspect it and list any possible flaw in the description. I may just stick to the BST and facebook groups when I have something to sell.

I think raw card authentication bases their condition review off the stated condition in the drop down menu on the listing. If you select Nm or better, or Excellent, etc... they will make sure it meets that threshold. It has saved me thousands in the past where major damage was hidden in the pictures. They caught the damage and reached out to me. I requested pictures of the damage and they sent me close up images of the damage.

You don't have to disclose every flaw, but you do need to select the right card condition. And if it's close, they reach out to the buyer to make sure they are ok with it. Which is a fantastic way to do it for raw cards online. The only downside is time. But a few more days to receive a card is nothing to making sure the buyer is fully informed of the condition.

For the seller, the more information you include the less likely you will run into these delays. Good pictures help inform the buyer, but won't overcome a poor description or choosing the wrong condition level in your listing.

While it's great you take good pictures, that is the old way to make sure condition is as described. Authentication doesn't rely on that now that it gets evaluated in person before shipped to the buyer.

[BRoberts]

Q: How do you know if someone is a vegan?

A: They will tell you.

Q: How do you know if someone has only raw cards in his collection?

A: He will tell you. Repeatedly.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by BRoberts

Q: How do you know if someone is a vegan?

A: They will tell you.

Q: How do you know if someone has only raw cards in his collection?

A: He will tell you. Repeatedly.

Listen, there’s new people around here all the time, and it’s important that they know about these details, including who is who in our little world. I certainly keep getting emails from people with 1 post whose mates have everything on my want list.

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by BRoberts

Q: How do you know if someone is a vegan?

A: They will tell you.

Q: How do you know if someone has only raw cards in his collection?

A: He will tell you. Repeatedly.

Out of curiosity, how would you know if you were wrong (about either assertion)?

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

Out of curiosity, how would you know if you were wrong (about either assertion)?

Especially on a forum populated by those who worship graded cards.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by jingram058

Especially on a forum populated by those who worship graded cards.

It probably feels that way sometimes.

But it sure seems like there’s plenty of posts that highlight the follies associated with the imperfect outcomes that come with grading.

At the same time, with the silly prices commanded by some cards simply based on the grade, it’s probably more a function of a slice of players in the market being willing to pay outrageous prices for low pop grades, regardless of the actual card quality. And that probably feels like worshipping.

[campyfan39]

Update: got a congrats email saying the card was authenticated. Yay!
Now maybe Monday I will finally get paid for a card I sold 13 days ago.

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

I think raw card authentication bases their condition review off the stated condition in the drop down menu on the listing. If you select Nm or better, or Excellent, etc... they will make sure it meets that threshold. It has saved me thousands in the past where major damage was hidden in the pictures. They caught the damage and reached out to me. I requested pictures of the damage and they sent me close up images of the damage.

You don't have to disclose every flaw, but you do need to select the right card condition. And if it's close, they reach out to the buyer to make sure they are ok with it. Which is a fantastic way to do it for raw cards online. The only downside is time. But a few more days to receive a card is nothing to making sure the buyer is fully informed of the condition.

For the seller, the more information you include the less likely you will run into these delays. Good pictures help inform the buyer, but won't overcome a poor description or choosing the wrong condition level in your listing.

While it's great you take good pictures, that is the old way to make sure condition is as described. Authentication doesn't rely on that now that it gets evaluated in person before shipped to the buyer.