How is this a PSA 5 with no qualifier?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

I’m not sure I understand your reply. Are you saying that the original printer applied the stamp or the nurse did? I can’t see the stamp being applied by the printer. It’s haphazardly done and screams of a old rubber stamp and ink pad. I think it was most certainly done by the nurse after the fact when she received them hence why there are examples that don’t have the stamp on them.

I think he meant that the school nurse was the original distributer, not the printer.

[JollyElm]

During my last hospital stay, my nurse proudly showed off her 'tramp stamp' ink to me.
She said it loosely translates to "Buy the card, not the holder."

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[Fred]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

During my last hospital stay, my nurse proudly showed off her 'tramp stamp' ink to me.
She said it loosely translates to "Buy the card, not the holder."

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Seriously, she got a tramp stamp without knowing what it really means? It doesn't say that? Anyone that knows Chinese can tell you it says "Push harder"... sheesh...

[raulus]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

During my last hospital stay, my nurse proudly showed off her 'tramp stamp' ink to me.
She said it loosely translates to "Buy the card, not the holder."

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Nice attempt!

Hard to say 100%, because there are some covered bits. And also because as is common, neither the artist nor the recipient have a clue, so they usually just hope that it means whatever their cheat sheet suggests, and don’t know how to actually position anything.

But it looks like the first character is actually 2 characters stacked on top of one another. 自 營。 Hard to translate this, but probably something like “search yourself” or “yourself seek”, then 福, which means blessings or happiness. And then 強 means strong or powerful. Hard to decipher what someone was trying to say here, but maybe something like: seek for yourself and you will find happiness and power.

But for the “buy the card” die hard fans, this is probably close enough.

[bigfanNY]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

I think he meant that the school nurse was the original distributer, not the printer.

Yes The Nurse was given the cards to Distribute and applied the stamp before issuing the cards to students. Happend many times to various E and W cards where back stamps are applied. You have never heard of a back stamped card before? E94 W554 W515 M104 and M105's ...look them up and I think you will agree no qualifier required.
J

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

Yes The Nurse was given the cards to Distribute and applied the stamp before issuing the cards to students. Happend many times to various E and W cards where back stamps are applied. You have never heard of a back stamped card before? E94 W554 W515 M104 and M105's ...look them up and I think you will agree no qualifier required.
J

Of course, I’ve heard of those cards before, but I look at it differently. The card was issued by the manufacturer without the stamp. Any alteration to that card like an ink stamp should result in a qualifier because it was done after production.

[bigfanNY]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

Of course, I’ve heard of those cards before, but I look at it differently. The card was issued by the manufacturer without the stamp. Any alteration to that card like an ink stamp should result in a qualifier because it was done after production.

You say you look at it differently but the issues I referrance all left the Manufacturer / Printer without a back stamps. Were given to a distributor gum candy bread store ....on and on who placed a back stamps. Same thing happen here it and it would not surprise me to find other back stamps on this issue. And no surprise that PSA saw it this way.
If the end user added a backstamp or other writing then the card would not be as "Issued" and deserving of a qualifier. But the youg person who took Whitey home that day took it home as issued by the Nurse.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

You say you look at it differently but the issues I referrance all left the Manufacturer / Printer without a back stamps. Were given to a distributor gum candy bread store ....on and on who placed a back stamps. Same thing happen here it and it would not surprise me to find other back stamps on this issue. And no surprise that PSA saw it this way.
If the end user added a backstamp or other writing then the card would not be as "Issued" and deserving of a qualifier. But the youg person who took Whitey home that day took it home as issued by the Nurse.

I look at it like someone just took a card and wrote something on it that was not intended, which to me would earn the MK qualifier.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

I look at it like someone just took a card and wrote something on it that was not intended, which to me would earn the MK qualifier.

Being through a health organization, it's possible the nurses backstamp was intended.
Perhaps as a way to track what cards were given out.
Anyone recall the "TB tine test?" I don't like needles at all, and getting stuck with the Katyusha rocket of needles (Ok, it was only 5 at once, but still 5x worse than one) was the makings of a bad day.
A free baseball card would have gone a long way to making it "better" or at least more tolerable.
Maybe the stamps were to indicate ones given out for taking that test or some other test?

Or, just similar to the Carousel discs which were blank backed MSA discs rubber stamped with the store stamp before issue.
Or as mentioned, the many stamps issued with back stamps for a variety of purposes, from repurposing a set to identifying the individual who packed the product.

[ALR-bishop]

I am a post war collector and the only pre war set I collect is the 1923 Fleer set, and I only collect it as an extention of my post war Fleer run, 1959-2007. The cards are just W 515 cards with a Feer back stamp. I assume Fleer obtained some and stamped them post production or maybe under a license agreement.